MINUTES OF MEETING
PORT OF THE
COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT
The regular meeting of the Board of
Supervisors of the Port of the Islands Community Improvement District was held
on
Present and constituting a quorum were:
Richard Gatti Chairman
Dale Lambert Vice Chairman
Ted Bissell Assistant Secretary
Norine Dillon Assistant Secretary
Richard Ziko Assistant Secretary
Also present were:
Edward Goscicki District Manager
Dan Cox Attorney
Ron Benson Engineer
Tom Mack Staff
Bob
Dick
Christopher
Shucart POI
Hotel &
James
Shucart POI
Hotel &
Doug Crenshaw Government Services Group
Peter Pimentel Special District Services
Todd Wodraska Special District Services
Chuck Adams Wrathell, Hart, Hunt & Associates
Michal Szymonowicz Wrathell, Hart, Hunt & Associates
Craig Wrathell Wrathell, Hart, Hunt & Associates
Rudy Kumpf Resident
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS Roll Call
Mr. Gatti called the meeting to order and Mr. Goscicki called the roll.
SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS Approval of the Minutes of the January 27, 2006 Meeting
Mr. Gatti stated each Board member
received a copy of the minutes of the
Mr. Lambert stated on Page 34 in the third paragraph ‘Shucart’ should replace ‘Molberg’. On Page 39 in the second line from the bottom ‘pump’ should replace ‘well’.
Ms. Dillon stated in the motion box on Page 39 we restated the previous motion. Did we also move and vote on this motion with regard to the sale of the ERCs?
Mr. Ziko responded yes, however, the page is incomplete. We had a motion which was seconded and voted on, but does not show in the minutes. There are three more paragraphs which were omitted on Page 38 at the second paragraph. Perhaps you should go over the tape and redo these two pages.
On MOTION by Ms. Dillon
seconded by Mr. Lambert with all in favor the minutes of the
THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS Discussion of RFQs for Operation, Maintenance and Management of Water and Wastewater Facilities
Mr. Gatti stated I hope there was not a misunderstanding. Mr. Cox will elaborate on what he asked for.
Mr. Cox stated the first proposal is a request for management services with the alternative second bid of presenting proposals to handle contract management of the wastewater treatment plant and potable water productions
Mr. Gatti asked did you ask for presentations for today’s meeting?
Mr. Cox responded yes.
Mr. Gatti stated we just received the material this week.
Mr. Cox stated when we meet again on
March10th, you should hear the presentations and we may co
Mr. Gatti stated I apologize to the presenters, but we are not ready to discuss this.
Ms. Dillon stated I do not see a problem with listening to the proposals to give us some more background.
Mr. Gatti asked how can we listen to the proposals, not make an evaluation and then have another presentation in March.
Mr. Cox stated you will not have another presentation. The presentations will be made today in order to get you familiar with the different groups and services which they will be able to provide you. We will then look at formal written proposals to see the answers to questions about staffing which will be addressed. You will do a formal evaluation and rank them at the next meeting.
Mr. Lambert asked if we have questions after listening to the presentation and reading the information given to us, how will we go about getting them answered?
Mr. Cox responded if someone has a specific question, it will be best if we ask one representative from each group to attend the next meeting. If the questions are of a general nature, all of the presenters must have the opportunity to respond. You can send the questions to me and I will send it out to all of them for a general response to the Board.
Mr. Ziko asked do you have any ranking sheets with you?
Mr. Cox responded I do not.
Mr. Gatti stated this was sent to me by mail earlier, approximately the middle of last week, and I did not distribute it.
Mr. Cox stated the formal response
is what should be co
Mr. Lambert stated we should have
received everything which we are going to co
Mr. Gatti asked did they actually submit?
Mr. Goscicki responded yes.
Mr. Cox stated the holiday on Monday delayed this process.
Mr. Gatti asked should everyone be in the room?
Mr. Cox responded although it is a public meeting, out of courtesy, the other presenters were not in the room.
Mr. Gatti stated the reason this is unfair is when the first is done and the other two presenters have to listen, it unbalances things. Therefore, we should make a decision on how we will ask questions.
Mr. Goscicki stated since these are public meetings you cannot require anyone to leave as Mr. Cox will tell you, but as a professional courtesy among these groups, I believe you will see only one presenter at a time in these presentations.
Mr. Gatti stated I disagree with both of you because I have gone through many of these and we never had people together in the same room. We will have the presenters come up in alphabetical order.
Mr. Cox stated the order will be Governmental Services Group; Severn Trent Services; Special District Services and Wrathell, Hart, Hunt & Associates.
Mr. Lambert asked can we limit the time allowed for each presentation?
Mr. Gatti responded we should allow 15 minutes for presentations and 15 minutes for questions, if the Board agrees.
Mr. Ziko stated we have other items on the list. The gentleman with the fire station does not want to wait two hours while we have presentations.
Mr. Gatti stated this makes sense, if it is acceptable to the submitters. This actually will give you more time to work with. Perhaps we should go through the open items.
Mr. Lambert stated I was not able get them updated this time.
Mr. Cox stated since we meet again in a couple of weeks, perhaps we can discuss the ones which are more important and take care of the remaining ones later.
Ms. Dillon stated perhaps we can discuss the fire station and hold the other ones for after the presentations.
FOURTH ORDER OF BUSINESS Discussion
of Open Items
Fire Station
Mr. Mack stated I am in contact with DJ, the manager of the gun club, and Mr. Holecek, the owner of the property. They are currently in the process of doing a site plan of the property. There are also some rezoning issues which must be resolved before he can commit to us. I will introduce him to Mr. Colletta and they can discuss how to resolve the rezoning issue, which will help both us and them. This will probably take a couple of months, and until this happens, we will have to wait and see.
Mr. Lambert asked how does this affect the fire chief and what he budgeted for this year in getting something done?
Mr. Mack responded this is part of the problem. I am not certain. The fire chief is aware of what is going on and waiting to hear something positive before we can proceed, however, I do not believe it will take more than two months.
Ms. Dillon stated it is safe to say everything is positive.
Mr. Mack stated we are on the right track and hopefully we can resolve all these issues.
Mr. Lambert stated I am not confident two months is reasonable when it comes to rezoning.
Mr. Cox stated this is not enough time to have a preliminary meeting with staff to go over ideas you have for the property and determine what kind of staff level you will get. If you have few staff level interruptions, you are not going to have many problems in the future.
Mr. Lambert asked will it go directly to the Board after staff reviews it?
Mr. Cox responded it takes time because different departments have to review it before it can actually be included on a Board agenda. The entire process takes a minimum of six to seven months. I assume they will go for a planned unit development property and include use in planning and development so that we do not have to go through it again later.
Mr. Mack stated since the fire station is involved, I believe we can get tremendous help from Mr. Colletta in order to proceed forward.
Mr. Lambert stated I also want to ensure Mr. Cox keeps in line with this part of it so we do not have to go through another six months after they get done.
Mr. Mack stated I will keep in touch with Mr. Cox, but things change from week to week.
Mr. Gatti stated Mr. Shucart asked me to make a brief presentation on an issue which affects the Board and the community, and has nothing to do with the hotel. With the Board’s permission I would like to give him a few minutes to discuss.
Mr. James Shucart stated one of the most important issues facing this community, which is close to the water, is access to the Gulf for boating pleasure and the safety and maintenance of our property values out here, whether it is for the hotel, marina or individual homes. Issues have come to our attention with respect to certain areas which are difficult to navigate due to filling in and shifting of the channel. We conducted interviews with several guides and captains in the area, who tell us the situation was worsened due to the recent hurricane. We would like to analyze which areas pose problems since we feel it is important for our marina, as well as the community. We already spoke with a couple of people and had a bathometric study made at our own expense to isolate these areas, which will give us an opportunity to see what costs may be involved in remedying the situation out there. In the last couple of days, Mr. Christopher Shucart spoke with a gentleman who said there may be some matching funds available to assist in this process, and he will fill you in on the details.
Mr. Christopher Shucart stated I
spoke to Mr. Chuck Littlejohn, who is a lobbyist for the State, and he informed
me there is an appropriations package which the State has allocated for what
they call the ‘Financial Mitigation for Hurricane Damage’, with a sizeable
amount of money available. Unfortunately,
it goes into session one week from this Tuesday. I discussed this with Mr. Littlejohn and he
recommended we contact Mr. Mike Davis, our
Mr. Gatti stated we should probably
discuss this when we have more information since the economical effect may be
co
Mr. Lambert stated I believe the County has to be the major supporter of this program and I am not certain it falls under our jurisdiction.
Ms. Dillon stated I agree, and part of this area is a federal waterway.
Mr. Gatti stated I cannot tell you about the dredging aspect, but the Army Corps of Engineers will definitely be involved. We also had a question as to who will maintain the signs out there and, after some deliberations, the County agreed to do this. I do not know what impact this has on anything, but we are going to have to pursue in this direction.
Mr. Christopher Shucart asked what signs are you referring to?
Ms. Dillon responded a few years ago the County replaced many of the channel markers.
Mr. Christopher Shucart stated we lost some markers out there as well and we will use this funding to replace markers and add additional ones if necessary.
Mr. Gatti stated there also some posts sticking out of the ground through the water.
Mr. Bissell stated the County has been doing most of the dredging in these areas.
Mr. Gatti stated we should pursue this with the County and perhaps a Board member can be involved.
Mr. Cox stated although this is a community issue, the CID is not empowered to do this. Perhaps you should reactivate the HOA and use it as a tool to raise the money.
Mr. Gatti stated even if we wanted to pursue this, it is not appropriate for the CID to spend money in this area.
Ms. Dillon stated it is not appropriate for the CID.
Mr. Gatti stated we should contact the County, the CID can support the issue, and go from there.
Ms. Dillon stated I wonder if it is appropriate to see if there is a voting audience member who can become our point person the same way Mr. Mack has been for the fire station, in order that there is someone aside from a Board member representing our interests and reporting back to us.
Mr. Gatti stated I believe the Shucarts fill this role.
Mr. James Shucart stated we are open to anyone who is interested in assisting us.
Mr. Lambert stated residents should email Mr. Colletta to make him aware of the community’s concerns.
Mr. James Shucart stated I believe the timing of the issue makes this difficult. We were hoping the CID or District would have some funding available which we can match, but it does not look like this is possible.
Mr. Christopher Shucart asked are their requirements on what they can spend?
Mr. Cox responded the Statute has specific powers which the CID is authorized to pay. I do not believe we can segue this into surface water management.
Mr. Christopher Shucart asked is maintaining property values the Board’s responsibility?
Mr. Cox responded maintaining or enhancing property values is a measure of the validity of the special assessment, but it is not a power of the District.
Mr. Ziko stated a resident may want to add something to this.
Mr. Rudy Kumpf stated if you use your boat on, or close to, a daily basis as some of us do, you will realize we have lost a lot of depth. Last month when we had many periods of low tide, there was less than two feet of water in substantial areas and less than one foot of water in other areas. You lost four channel markers due to the hurricane, and one of them is strategically located at the entrance. If you cut this short, you may lose the bottom of your boat since the area is made up of coral. Even though it is not the CID’s responsibility, there should be a program of continual maintenance.
Mr. Ziko stated by law we cannot do this.
Mr. Cohen stated this does not mean much as long as it is open, but when it is closed and can no longer be navigated, everyone will lose property value.
Mr. Gatti stated we all recognize the need for what is being proposed, however, I believe the point as to where and how we can put this together is the issue.
Mr. Cox stated we are not empowered as a Board to do this.
Mr. Gatti stated there is no question about what you are saying.
Mr. Goscicki stated the CID is a special purpose local government which has specific duties and powers, and maintenance of navigable waterways is not one of them.
Mr. Christopher Shucart asked can this ever be amended?
Mr. Goscicki responded I do not recall seeing this in a permissible list.
Mr. Cox stated it is possible, only through special legislation, which is unlikely due to the history of Chapter 190 which was created for uniformity to types of districts, and very few districts in the state are interested in maintaining waterways. There are different special districts which can be established for navigational purposes, but not under Chapter 190. The quickest way is to reactivate the HOA to handle this.
Mr. Gatti stated we should focus on the point of the issue. We cannot come to a decision within a couple of weeks since all aspects make this impossible. We should try to pursue this with the County, and I believe the Board will support this.
Mr. Christopher Shucart we would like to be able to get a letter of support to give us some backing because we will still have to submit for emergency funding even though we do not have all the information. It is an opportunity which will be lost.
Mr. Lambert stated I do not believe we should be making recommendations on something which is not part of our area.
Mr. Ziko stated I can support a petition to be circulated throughout the community as a private citizen, but not as a Board member.
Ms. Dillon stated the County paid
for the dredging of
Mr. Gatti stated we should proceed on the basis that individuals may write a letter of support.
Mr. Lambert stated most importantly you should give your comments to Mr. Coletta because he will be able to help us.
Mr. James Shucart stated I suggest we do this in a somewhat organized manner; perhaps members of the community can call us and we can have a meeting of those interested in moving forward with this. We are open to any suggestions and assistance which can be provided, however, we cannot do it all on our own.
Mr. Gatti asked will you work on this for us?
Mr. Kumpf responded absolutely.
Mr. Ziko stated since Mr. Colletta answers all of his emails, the community can email, as individuals, their concern on this issue. Perhaps a format can be developed in which we fill in the blanks and send him an email.
Mr. Lambert stated he needs to know how many people are concerned.
Mr. Gatti stated you should take
these concerns into co
Ms. Dillon stated I am willing to walk around neighborhoods to get signatures on letters, among other things which can be done.
Mr. Gatti stated we will proceed on this basis.
THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS Discussion of RFQs
for Operation, Maintenance and management of Water and Wastewater Facilities
(Continued)
Government Services Group
Mr. Gatti stated as a courtesy the presentations be done in alphabetical order. The first one is Government Services Group (GSG).
Mr. Crenshaw stated I want to thank
the Board for allowing me to discuss what GSG can do to assist the District to
move forward. I will follow along with
the handout I distributed. GSG is a
10-year old government consulting firm which only serves governmental entities
from special districts, cities, counties and authorities. We serve over 150 governmental entities
throughout the State of
Ms. Dillon asked did you take over Crossings from Severn Trent?
Mr. Crenshaw responded yes, along
with St. Lucie West. We were awarded a
certificate of excellence for our financial reporting from the Governmental
Financial Officers Association over the past four years for both accuracy and
timing. We pride ourselves on getting
financials to the district within 30 days.
Waiting two to four months is not acceptable from our point of
view. We pride ourselves in providing
the best services to our clients. We
were also awarded the Plant Operations Excellence Award from the DEP. We often receive calls from DEP when they
have significant issues, whether it be a financial or compliance issue, and
different utility systems throughout the state.
We often serve on a consulting basis with DEP. We have more than 40 years of utility
operations experience in the State of
Mr. Bissell asked do you have your own plant operators who can come in and take over?
Mr. Crenshaw responded we have not proposed contract operations of the utilities at this time. However, as the district management firm, we will be responsible for managing the contract on behalf of the District and the Board, as it is done for your irrigation or your lawn maintenance contractors. We are able to manage this and to ensure the contractor is doing the right job efficiently and effectively.
Ms. Dillon stated you will be our management company, and when it comes to running the plant you will hire a contractor to handle different aspects of running the plant, and you are responsible for their reporting and supervision. Is this correct?
Mr. Crenshaw responded we would not hire employees to operate it. We will manage and oversee whomever we hire as the operator. It is their responsibility, according to the way your RFQ and RFP were set up, and for them to be responsible for permits and compliance, among other things. It is our job to manage the contract and make sure they are living up to it.
Ms. Dillon asked who is responsible for the daily operations of the plant?
Mr. Crenshaw responded it will be your contract operator, whomever you decide to award the contract to.
Ms. Dillon do you do the staffing?
Mr. Crenshaw responded no, we manage it.
Ms. Dillon asked do you have satellite offices in this area?
Mr. Crenshaw responded our
headquarters are in
Mr. Lambert stated our district is small compared to some of the numbers and sizes of the areas you are currently managing, however, our expectations are probably similar and I am concerned how you will address this based on our size.
Mr. Crenshaw stated the size of a utility system or community should not have any impact on the level of service and attention the client receives and we feel strongly in the way we do business, and I think you will see we feel it is important to understand over 10 years of steady growth. With regard to having offices down here, we do operate two large utility systems in this immediate area. We have one of our construction managers and inspectors handling the utility systems in the Golden Gate/Naples area, therefore, we will have an on-site and close relationship.
Mr. Lambert stated we currently have our own employees running the plant. If we decide not to go with a contract to have an organization run it for us and continue with our own employees, are you prepared to oversee those employees or is this something you did not anticipate?
Mr. Crenshaw responded we are capable and prepared to do this. During our site visits a couple of weeks ago, I had an opportunity to spend time going through the plants as well as the entire community, and I spent some time with Mr. Stephens getting input and feedback from his side. I also spoke with Mr. Cox and Mr. Benson in order to understand your situation over the past, as well as the direction you are looking to go. If the Board chose to leave those staff members as district employees, or change the parameters in the RFP or RFQ, then we may be interested in looking at the contract operations side or any other creative structure. Since we handle payroll and everything of that nature in-house, we are perfectly set up with personnel expertise, software to handle payroll, benefits and everything of this nature.
Mr. Lambert stated I wanted to ensure you understood we can still possibly go in this direction.
Mr. Gatti asked what do you see as key issues which need to be taken care of and are not being attended to?
Mr. Crenshaw responded this is a difficult question to answer.
Mr. Gatti stated if you did not have enough time to look at this, I can appreciate it.
Mr. Crenshaw stated we have video and more than 200 photographs of everything, and I definitely have serious concerns with regard to some compliance issues and practices which we believe should be improved from a liability standpoint.
Mr. Gatti stated please be specific.
Mr. Crenshaw stated I am referring to issues from a preventative maintenance standpoint, overall appearance. and some maintenance practices from a chemical standpoint, however, I am not a utility person; my background is in recreation and golf operations, and I cannot answer technically.
Mr. Gatti asked if we award you the contract who will be here on a daily basis if we have a problem or need immediate attention? For example, last night we had a water main break.
Mr. Crenshaw responded if it were from the utility side, you would see one of our utility operators/inspectors immediately. If it involved an issue from the standpoint of irrigation and landscaping, I monitor those contracts. Generally, you will see a variety of people depending on the need, which is why we stress that this is more the district management firm versus district manager.
Ms. Dillon asked how would you handle the situation if our plant manager resigned?
Mr. Crenshaw responded we have staff
members to handle this situation within hours, since we are approximately four
hours away. We have several certified
engineers. Although we do not perform
engineering services, many of our inspectors are engineers and certified
operators. Our Vice President, Mr.
Charles Sweat has been operating utilities in
Mr. Ziko asked do you have operators
available who are licensed by the State of
Mr. Crenshaw responded we have certified operators, and we can step in and address this issue. As a matter of fact, DEP calls us for some of these services.
Mr. Gatti stated thank you very much. The Board will take this under advisement and go from there.
Mr. Crenshaw asked with regard to the selection process, once you have seen all the presentations, will there be discussions or possible questions?
Mr. Cox responded we will do this on March 10th .
Severn
Mr. Goscicki stated good
morning. I am the present regional
manager from Severn Trent Services, and Mr. Dick, who is our Operations
Manager, is also in attendance. It is a
pleasure being here to talk to you about Severn Trent. We did not bring a presentation or proposal,
other than the proposal we submitted. We
would like to talk to you about who we are, what we do and where we are
going. We have a long history with the
CID, and our goal is to continue this long history. You will hear from four different companies
this morning all telling you about their background and experience. This District is familiar with Mr. Dick and
myself, and you met a few other people in the past. We have gone through significant changes over
the last year. One of the firms you are
going to hear from later today is comprised of all of our former employees. We are unique in this business, and some of
the unique features we bring are highlighted in the executive summary of our
proposal. We have been in this business
for 30 years, and despite the fact we lost some players over the years we still
have more than 200 plus years of experience with our senior managers in
utility, district management and governmental management services. I believe this is an important differentiator
when you look at the experience of the people we bring to the table, such as
myself, Mr. Daugirda and Ms. Larned, who is our fiscal manager. Some of our other senior accountants bring 15
to 20 years of governmental fund accounting experience and governmental
management experience. Having a
governmental management experience is an important differentiator, and we are
unsurpassed in terms of people we bring.
Another feature is our depth of resources. If I have issues on a particular item dealing
with POI, I have a depth within the organization to work with. I have a team of experts with this experience
that I can rely on. Recently, one of
your residents was querying me on the election process. Although I was unable to answer the question
immediately, I made one phone call and a fact sheet was given to her within 30
minutes with all the details of the process.
We have this depth and breadth on essentially all aspects. I know all the firms here, and we are the
only firm who can provide the full level of services you are looking for. We are the only firm who can provide the
management service, fiscal management, assessment role, maintenance services,
fiscal analysis services, utility billing and customer service and utility
operations oversight management. We are
the only firm who can do all of this in house.
With regard to utility operations, Mr. Dick brings this expertise and
there are others in our organization who understand utility and operations
issues. I believe you have seen some
progress over the last six months, as Mr. Dick has been actively engaged in
getting the utility up and running. The
fact that we are on site is another differentiator. We have locations in more places in this
state than any of the other firms, and we are close to you here. Mr. Dick’s office is in
Ms. Dillon asked do you think it is in our best interest to have someone run the plant or should we continue with the way things are currently handled?
Mr. Goscicki responded it is usually more beneficial for an organization of this size, with a staff of two full-time employees and a couple of part-time employees, to look to contract services, the same reason why we look to contract services for landscape maintenance, and amenity center pool maintenance. You are dealing with a limited number of employees which, by nature, is going to give you a limited skill set, therefore, you are limited in terms of the capabilities the person brings; you do not have the back-up, you do not have learning and growth. We recommend to all of our clients, not just you, to look to a contract operation for this type of operation, and whether you choose Severn Trent or someone else, I still think it is better long-term in terms of stability, accountability, and protection for the district. With regard to the problem you had last week with sewage overflow, you have no third party to go back to. Your district employee is responsible. If you had a third party, there would have been other backups.
Ms. Dillon asked do you find a difference in the cost when going through the district?
Mr. Goscicki responded when we looked at your numbers, we put together a proposal and kept the cost essentially the same. Although I have not looked at it in a couple of months, our price is generally the same. This is a lean organization. The challenge you have is not more efficiency in your utility, but more effectiveness and reliance in your utility. I do not recommend contract operations as a way to improve efficiency, but I recommend contract operations as a need for more reliability in the utility operation. You do not have a reliable operation because you are reliant on one person. You have reliability, consistency and level of service to your customer issues which need to be enhanced. This is difficult to do when you are limiting yourself to one or two key individuals.
Mr. Ziko stated it is obvious to all of us we lost confidence in the management abilities of the plant operator. If we were to go with a contract operation such as Severn Trent, who is familiar with the situation, what will we see in the next year and how will you effect the change?
Mr. Dick responded we are all
disappointed with the condition of the facilities. I will welcome any Board member to view some
of our other operations as a comparison.
The standards of
Mr. Ziko asked how would you bring this about and what will we see one year from now?
Mr. Goscicki we identified for Mr. Stephens a number of maintenance items which need to be taken care of and we would handle them immediately by putting together a team to get it done, therefore, I believe you would immediately see a significant cosmetic and visual change. We are going to get the facility looking good quickly. We are going to get the site cleaned up and get rid of old materials which are lying around abandoned and not being used. You will see us implement immediately a computerized preventive maintenance program to keep the facility maintained on an ongoing basis. You will see improved process control. One of the issues we will bring to the table as the operator are our process control experts to get this facility up and running the way it is supposed to. Currently, you are relying on Mr. Stephens’ expertise. You received advice and counsel from Mr. Benson, but he cannot go out there and turn the valves. He can only provide advice to Mr. Stephens who, in turn, is going to do as much as he can with that advice.
Mr. Ziko asked what is one of your closest areas I can go with Mr. Dick and look at what you accomplished?
Mr. Goscicki responded the closest one is Golden Gate, which is a couple of exits north on I-75.
Mr. Ziko stated I want to go up there sometime next week.
Ms. Dillon asked will all the work you stated was going to get done fall under the dollar amount of your contract, or will the extra work be an additional cost?
Mr. Goscicki responded the only extra, and I will not even call it extra, is on our contract when we put our price together we created a maintenance budget with money allocated for facility maintenance in one year, which I believe is approximately $30,000. If we identify $60,000 worth of maintenance which needs to be done, we would have to get the Board’s authorization to spend more than that $30,000. It probably will be more during the first year, however, we will get the work done. In the past, we put together work authorizations, replaced doors, cleaned up sites and performed some electrical repairs. We are trying to move on these issues, and most of them are housekeeping-related, which is not a big dollar item.
Mr. Bissell stated you talked about maintenance which you would take care of and get rid of things which are not necessary. If we continue as we are now, can this be done?
Mr. Goscicki responded we are starting to put specific requirements on Mr. Stephens for housekeeping and maintenance, along with policies he will need to conform to and the timeframes to get everything done. We are starting to hold Mr. Stephens accountable since he has the staffing in place. If he cannot be successful in moving the agenda forward, we will recruit and find someone who can.
Mr. Bissell stated I want to know why Severn Trent cannot bring in the crew, clean it out and get it in shape. I am aware we will have to pay you extra and then work from there. If it is not maintained, other things can be done, but I do not see this being cleaned, what we have now.
Ms. Dillon stated I understand what you are saying but we are paying a wage to certain people over there, and because they are not doing the job, we are just going to pay more money to someone else to do it. This does not make sense to me.
Mr. Lambert stated we had a couple of incidents within the last couple of months, and my background is preventive maintenance. Are our problems due to a lack of preventive maintenance or aging of materials?
Mr. Dick responded I believe the last couple of incidents were a combination of both, but preventive maintenance can minimize some of the problems we have had and accelerate overcoming some of the other problems we have had. Aesthetics are one thing and you can bring in a bunch of people to make it look nice in a short period of time, but, as Mr. Goscicki referred to with regard to the reliability of the facility, there are components which do not function as they were designed to, which is leading to non-compliance in my opinion. You had compliance inspections from the DEP on both the wastewater and the water plants over the past two weeks. We have not seen the results of those inspections yet, but I believe they are not going to be attractive and they are going to point out these deficiencies, however, Mr. Benson and I spoke about some of the processes over there and some of it does not work because it has not been maintained or exercised.
Mr. Ziko asked who is held responsible if these reports come back on a negative basis as you believe they may? Does the Board take on the responsibility? Does Mr. Benson bear some of this? Does Severn Trent bear it, or does Mr. Stephens get his license taken away? We seem to have a big problem with our major operator which is why I want to know where we will be one year from now.
Mr. Dick stated if Severn Trent becomes your contract operator, you will have the type of facility you are looking for with regard to the appearance, reliability and operations. I cannot stress enough that I want to take you to some of our other facilities in order to get you to see what you are envisioning. Many of these miscellaneous issues, such as telephone and gasoline bills, will not be concerns of yours anymore.
Ms. Dillon asked how would we know about it?
Mr. Goscicki responded it will be
part of a lump sum fee. You are
currently co
Mr. Gatti asked if we award the contract to Severn Trent, will you commit to us that Mr. Dick will stay on site?
Mr. Goscicki responded as the overall operations manager, absolutely. The only thing I will add is you have not asked if I will stay on site. Assuming you want this, over the last three months I cleared a lot of my calendar.
Mr. Gatti stated I am glad you brought this up since this is important to us as well.
Mr. Goscicki stated some of the districts who left us have created a few management challenges and we have brought our financial system under control. I am directly involved with two districts, this one and one which is developer-controlled and meets for 15 minutes once per month.
Special District
Services
Mr. Wodraska stated my name is Todd
Wodraska and this is my boss and President of Special District Services. We are here to discuss the District Manager
role, and I just want to give you a brief overview of our company and then
about Pete and myself. Special District
Services was created in the middle 1990s to create and manage special taxing
districts. They have grown the firm and
manage approximately 60 special taxing districts, primarily CDDs, throughout
the State of
Mr. Lambert stated basically you are going to provide us managerial service, not operational service.
Mr. Pimentel stated we have experience with operational aspects, but we do not have qualified operators on staff, however, we have extensive administrative experience in managing the operation.
Mr. Lambert stated currently we have three or four employees and we are not necessarily going to change from this, however, we are investigating the possibility of expansion. If we stay with the same process, are you prepared to oversee some of those employees?
Mr. Pimentel responded absolutely. In fact, the water and sewer plant in the Beeline District, which we manage, is operated under a contract by Severn Trent and we work well with them.
Mr. Lambert asked do you see problems from the standpoint of one organization overseeing the managerial and financial area and another organization overseeing operations?
Mr. Pimentel responded no and I do not want this to sound self-serving, but I believe it makes more sense to have checks and balances with management not tied with the operation, and people should stay in their area of expertise. Our arrangement with Severn Trent and their operations work out well. We are going to build the entire water and sewer system under our administration for this West Villages project, which is approximately 8,000 acres and that is underway, and I believe it will be better served by dual operations.
Mr. Lambert asked if you were to take over the managerial and financial part of our organization, what is the first thing you will do to make yourselves comfortable?
Mr. Pimentel responded we recently took over several districts from other managers. Most of them have a 60-day termination clause and we immediately get involved. Even though we are not going to start officially for 60 days, we will attend meetings, get involved with your current manager, begin to look at their files and look through your records in order to prevent a gap in operations and management. We have done this successfully in approximately five different cases over the past two years.
Mr. Lambert asked when you step in and become the responsible party do you do any auditing in order to ensure everything is clear?
Mr. Pimentel responded we will rely on your last audit. We have a CPA on staff who will review the audit and we have financial staff who will look at your financial records in order to do an audit, however, I believe it is your responsibility to make the decision as to whether or not you want an independent auditor to audit the final books.
Mr. Lambert stated I was curious about what you will do when you step in there to make yourself comfortable with what you are taking over.
Mr. Pimentel stated the timing is such that your auditor must have his audit done by March. You will have a current audit as of September 30, 2005, therefore, you have a few months of this year’s operation to look at.
Mr. Ziko stated I was looking at the compensation page and it seems to be on the low side. Is everything we need going to be covered or are we going to get extras thrown in?
Mr. Pimentel responded this contemplates the fact that someone else will be operating your facility, which does not include operations. We believe this compensation will cover management of your district as well as overseeing your employees and handling your payroll.
Mr. Ziko asked does this cover attending a monthly meeting here as well as bringing us up to date with the financials?
Mr. Pimentel responded we are doing it at this price with a number of our districts. We will seek an escalation of approximately 4% each year to cover the cost of living. However, we are committed to doing it for one year to see how it works. If it is costing us more, we will discuss it with you, but this is not our intention.
Ms. Dillon stated according to you proposal you provide field management services. Can you elaborate?
Mr. Pimentel responded we will check with you periodically to ensure the operation is being maintained properly and do an inspection of the area as many times as necessary. If your staff is doing their job properly, we will only have to come over once or twice per month.
Ms. Dillon asked can you describe your miscellaneous services?
Mr. Pimentel responded it involves something beyond the normal management of your district. For example, if you have a bond issue we can negotiate a fee to assist in coordinating this activity. If you had the powers to do dredging and you wanted us involved, we can negotiate this as well.
Mr. Gatti asked where are you building a wastewater treatment plant?
Mr. Pimentel responded it is being built in Northport.
Mr. Gatti asked what is your role in this project?
Mr. Pimentel responded we are the district managers and we have an administration portion of the contract where the engineer does all the inspections. We are attending their construction meetings and coordinating with their project manager, however, we are not the construction manager. There is a clear division of authority, and we do not direct the project.
Mr. Gatti stated the engineer designs it and provides the contract services and you oversee the process.
Mr. Pimentel stated we can offer our assistance in obtaining a permit.
Mr. Gatti asked if we had to get someone out there immediately to start running the plant, would you solicit bids from contract operations for our purpose?
Mr. Pimentel responded yes.
Mr. Gatti asked do you have a list of available contractors to do this?
Mr. Pimentel responded although there are not many around, there are a few we know, and we will solicit them and work with your engineer to assemble a bid specification package.
Mr. Gatti asked will you be able to contract with companies providing licensed operators?
Mr. Pimentel responded the Board will contract this.
Mr. Gatti stated you will put the package together.
Mr. Pimentel stated part of my career was spent as the Executive Director of the Loxahatchee River Environmental Control District. We built a regional wastewater treatment plant under my administration, operated and maintained it. I hired the Class B Operator who reported to me. Therefore, I am quite familiar with utility operations.
Mr. Gatti asked is this part of your past experience?
Mr. Pimentel responded yes.
Wrathell, Hart, Hunt
& Associates
Mr. Wrathell stated I am the
Managing Partner with Wrathell, Hart, Hunt & Associates. Mr. Chuck Adams, who is the Director of
Operations for our organization, Mr. Bob Casey, who is the Assistant Regional
Manager in
Mr. Adams stated my name is Chuck
Adams, Director of Operations for Wrathell, Hart, Hunt & Associates. I have 17 years of experience working with
CDDs. I started at
Mr. Casey stated I was employed by
Mr. Adams stated I would like Mr. Szymonowicz to introduce himself. Our firm had the benefit of transitioning over a number of districts from different players in the industry, and one of the healthy processes we go through as part of this is basically transferring over the financial records. We have a different system than our competitors as we actually have to create a chart of accounts and literally do an audit on behalf of the district. We recreate the financial data on our system. We have actually found this to be an incredibly healthy process of evaluating the district’s finances in the current situation. Mr. Szymonowicz will play a key role in this process and will probably wrap up since we finally got our projector working. Although you missed most of the slides, I will go over them because we feel we have both the front end team as well as the back room support which compliments our management activities.
Mr. Szymonowicz stated I previously
worked for Gary Moyer PA, Severn Trent and now Wrathell, Hart, Hunt &
Associates as a financial analyst. My
educational background is in economics, and I was hired to provide a varied
spectrum of analysis and finance-related services throughout my years of
experience, which was mostly spent with Severn Trent Services. I was involved in many aspects of budgeting
including municipal budgeting with a 2004 budget of $100 million. I was a budget director for a city of
approximately 60,000 inhabitants in
Mr. Wrathell stated our organizational layout is consistent with what we have in the proposal books. The important part of all this is to demonstrate our support team, and Mr. Szymonowicz’ title is going to be Director of Financial Services within our organization. Mr. Szymonowicz will coordinate closely with the Accounting Department and link the budgeting component, rate analysis work and all the methodology work, along with the agenda preparation, distribution of public notices and the rest of the process and records retention. As Mr. Cox will tell you, there is no statutory requirement to hire a certified municipal clerk to maintain public records and fulfill those functions, but Ms. Katey Selchan who has been in this industry for 12 years, is a Certified Municipal Clerk and Debbie has been in this industry as well for approximately 10 years. We introduced the management team on this side from an accounting perspective. Mr. Ted Knapp has been in the industry for a number of years and Ms. Madonna DellOllio provides a dual function. Not only is she a Senior Accountant but actually oversees the entire process. Obviously, we brought on individuals with a high level of expertise for our backroom support, which I believe is incredibly important. It is one thing to come to a meeting understanding the issues, but it is another to actually have the mechanism machinery behind you to implement it. This is why we structured this organization. We took the positive experiences of working for Mr. Moyer’s organization and tried to avoid some limitations which evolved as the organization grew. I actually worked with another industry competitor for one year before starting this company and saw how it was done differently, and we believe we developed the best backroom support system in the industry which will ensure our success for years to come.
Mr. Ziko stated in looking through your brochure I noticed the Fee Schedule on Page 29. What is the negotiated fee?
Mr. Wrathell responded our fee is typical.
Mr. Cox stated it is important we are comfortable with the level of service you are providing. Our current budget is not going to provide you the level of management