MINUTES OF MEETING
PORT OF THE
COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT
The regular meeting of the Board of
Supervisors of the Port of the Islands Community Improvement District was held
on
Present and constituting a quorum
were:
Ted
Bissell Chairman
Dale
Lambert Vice Chairman
Norine
Dillon Secretary
Richard
Gatti Assistant
Secretary
Richard
Ziko Assistant
Secretary
Also present were:
Edward
Goscicki
Dan
Cox Attorney
(Via Telephone)
Bob
Dick Field
Manager
Robert
Edge Field
Operator
Tom
Mack Staff
R.W.
Gulledge Resident
Mike
Motwani Resident
Tom
Weiss Resident
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS Roll
Call
Mr. Bissell called the meeting to
order and Mr. Goscicki called the roll.
SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS Approval of the
Minutes of the August 10, 2007 Meeting
Mr. Bissell stated each Board member
received a copy of the minutes of the
Ms. Dillon stated on Page 4 in the
third paragraph from the bottom, membrane
should replace numbering of the. On Page 8 in the second paragraph from the
bottom, or should replace for.
On Page 9 in the last paragraph, a
new should replace from our. On Page 33 in the third paragraph from the
bottom, trimmed should replace turned.
Mr. Somers should be replaced
by Mr. Summers from Page 35
throughout the remainder of the document.
Mr. Lambert stated on Page 25 in the
third paragraph, new should replace old.
On MOTION by Mr. Lambert
seconded by Mr. Ziko with all in favor the minutes of the
THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS Audience
Comments
Mr.
Weiss stated a Neighborhood Watch sign has been leaning against a tree at the
entrance on
Mr. Bissell stated we do not have
one at the present time, although a gentleman approached us about doing this.
Mr.
Weiss stated the sign has been there for at least four to five months.
Mr. Dick stated I will remove it.
Mr.
Weiss stated I was on vacation for six weeks and received two water bills, one
for 16 cents and one for 60 cents. I
believe there should be a minimum amount, such as $5, which should be billed
because the cost to generate a bill for 60 cents is not reasonable.
Mr. Goscicki stated I agree with you
and this was corrected.
Ms. Dillon stated we discussed this
at last month’s meeting.
Mr. Goscicki stated we changed our
billing system; and the water & sewer portion of the bill for use of those
systems is so small that when you reach 100 gallons, it is not necessary to bill
during some months. We are going to be
billing for 1,000 gallons or more.
FOURTH ORDER OF BUSINESS Manager’s Report
A.
Consideration
of Resolution 2007-9 to Write Off Uncollectible Accounts Receivable
Mr.
Goscicki stated the resolution is being done in order to bring this significant
amount to your attention. This dates
back approximately seven years to some contention which was taking place in the
community with regards to bad debt on taxes, assessments and water & sewer
from some of the major developments.
This should have been written off at the time the Settlement Agreement
was reached with property owners on the tax settlement in which we collected
several million dollars to close out the entire settlement. The auditors brought to our attention the
fact we are still carrying this bad debt in the Water & Sewer Fund as
uncollected revenue, even though we recognize we are not going to collect this
revenue. We need to formally write it
off through a Board action to formally recognize this as bad debt to be removed
from the financial statements. We
already took action to resolve this with the property owners as part of the Settlement
Agreement two years ago. This is just an
accounting procedure to recognize we do not have to account for this bad debt.
Mr. Lambert asked will this document
be found if we were to go back and look at the settlement?
Mr. Goscicki responded that is
correct. I reviewed this with Mr. Cox
and he verified this was part of the settlement.
Ms. Dillon stated I understand the
auditors brought this to your attention, but I do not understand where it was
sitting.
Mr. Goscicki stated it has been
sitting as an accounts receivable issue in the details of the utility billing
system, and we identified it when we transitioned to the new billing system,
after which we spoke to the auditors and agreed it should be written off.
Mr. Gatti moved to adopt
Resolution 2007-9 for the District to Write Off Uncollectible Accounts
Receivable.
Ms. Dillon stated I want to ensure
this is not going to impact our current budget or income in which we may
suddenly find ourselves with another line item.
Mr. Goscicki stated this will not be
the case.
Mr. Ziko asked is it possible to attach
a background statement to this resolution?
Mr. Goscicki responded I believe we
can outline the details of this in a follow-up memorandum.
Mr. Ziko stated I believe this
resolution is incomplete since it just has one sentence indicating this large
amount was written off.
Mr. Goscicki stated we can give you
the details of what constitutes this amount.
Mr. Ziko stated this will satisfy
me.
Mr. Lambert stated I want to ensure
we have some documentation to refer to if necessary.
Mr. Ziko seconded the
prior motion.
There being no further comments or
questions,
On VOICE vote with all in
favor Resolution 2007-9 for the District to Write Off Uncollectible Accounts
Receivable was adopted.
B.
Discussion
of Telephone Service Upgrade for Teleconference Speakerphones
Mr.
Goscicki stated I have not been able to get with Mr. Teague on the status of
this issue. We have the speakerphone,
but it requires certain service in order to be able to use it properly.
Ms. Dillon stated you were not going
to upgrade the hotel’s telephone line, but we were going to look into what is
available in the event someone has to call in which will enable the person to hear
and converse clearly.
C.
Discussion
of Assessment Question for a
Mr.
Goscicki stated we looked into this further and I reviewed the discussion in
the minutes, and it appears you have a parcel on
Mr. Lambert stated it is not consistent
with what was done at the condominium development in Sunset Cay. There are no common areas taxed on the
properties on
Mr. Goscicki stated we are going to
look at the original assessment methodology to see how it was done. The understanding I have which we are trying
to verify is this parcel may not have been part of the original development and
was added later.
Mr. Benson stated it was reserved
for a potential future amenity for Stella Maris, but nothing was ever done.
Ms. Dillon stated I understand it was
moved over to the condominiums in the Villages.
Mr. Goscicki stated you normally look
at the ultimate development for the entire parcel of property and divide the
capacity within the number of units including common ground and allocate it.
Mr. Lambert stated I wonder if they had
fewer units than what they had ERCs for.
Mr. Benson stated they transferred
the ERCs which were not used from Stella Maris to
Mr. Goscicki stated since all of the
ERCs are being assessed, they were all accounted for.
Mr. Benson stated since they may not
have accounted for all of the bond debt, the developer must pay for it until
all of the bond debt is paid off because he did not assign it to any of the
units.
Mr. Lambert stated I suspect when he
sells enough units they will all be turned over to the HOA. However, I do not believe he has done this.
Mr. Goscicki stated the speculation
on my part is the developer was planning to develop this into a clubhouse or
amenity center and he may have held some capacity for this. I believe he allocated the capacity from this
property to another development.
Mr. Benson stated we never required
ERCs for amenities such as a swimming pool for a multi-family community. It was factored into the utilities, and is
similar to what
Mr. Lambert stated the spreadsheet
shows a gap.
Mr. Benson stated he is aware he can
never build a house there.
Mr. Bissell asked are you referring
to the lot on the corner of
Mr. Lambert responded I am referring
to the common area in the entire group of condominiums. The assessor’s report indicates this is one
parcel.
Mr. Benson stated they cannot build
on it because it is not part of their SDP and the county never approved
it. Therefore, they have no ERCs. The backyards of all of the Stella Maris
condominiums on
Mr. Bissell stated they can never
build a clubhouse or pool there.
Mr. Benson stated this can be done
on one part of it.
Mr. Lambert stated for example, a
pool or other type of amenity facility can be put on the corner of our street.
Mr. Bissell stated they can also get
water without ERCs.
Mr. Benson stated it is similar to
any amenity facility which goes with the multi-family units.
Mr. Lambert stated it will be
metered.
Mr. Benson stated we do not charge
for a swimming pool at a single-family home.
Mr. Bissell asked are we furnishing
free water to the swimming pools over here?
Mr. Goscicki responded they will be
billed for the water.
Mr. Benson stated they do not
require ERCs to build swimming pools.
Mr. Gatti asked who pays the water
bill?
Mr. Benson responded the master
association pays the water bill.
Mr. Goscicki stated the taxes are
being collected regardless of how it is allocated. I agree all the debt or assessments
associated with the common property should have been allocated to each
individual condominium unit. However,
the developer is currently paying this, and when it becomes HOA property, the
HOA will pay for it.
Mr. Ziko stated there are four
different condominium associations on one property.
Mr. Lambert stated there is a master
association.
FIFTH ORDER OF BUSINESS Field
Manager’s Report
A.
Discussion
of Landscaping Improvements on
Mr.
Dick stated Mr. Edge is in a meeting with the DEP and will be back as quickly
as possible. I have a list from him and
the best price he received was from Soto’s Lawn Service in the amount of $700
to landscape this particular area, which is a decrease from $1,000.
Mr. Lambert stated $700 does not
sound unreasonable for this work.
Mr. Dick stated we contemplated
doing this ourselves. However, it
probably makes sense to use a professional landscaper who will provide a warranty
if the landscaping does not grow properly and will replace anything which dies
off.
Mr. Lambert asked does he have a
proposal?
Mr. Dick responded yes.
Mr. Bissell asked is any action
required or will it be added to Soto’s contract?
Mr. Dick responded it can be added
to the monthly bill.
Mr. Goscicki stated I do not believe
you need a resolution from the Board for this amount. Since you have the Board’s consensus, we can proceed
to get this done.
B.
Discussion
of Purchase of New or Used Mosquito Control Sprayer
Mr.
Dick stated we contacted both Lee and
Ms. Dillon asked were you going to
let us know the cost for a new one?
Mr. Dick responded Mr. Edge has the
price, which is approximately $7,000 and I will confirm this. Clark Environmental actually brought the new
unit down here and did a demonstration for us.
Ms. Dillon asked does this unit have
a control in the cab?
Mr. Dick responded that is
correct. It is more modern than the one
we use with the sprayer capable of applying a higher dosage; thereby minimizing
the amount of time the noise is heard in the neighborhood. The application rate is double the amount of
the existing machine and it will drive 16 miles per hour as opposed to eight
miles per hour.
Mr. Lambert asked how bad of a
condition is the old machine?
Mr. Dick responded we continually
make minor repairs. The gasoline engine
runs the blower which requires preventive maintenance as well as minor
repairs. At some point you are going to
need a more reliable machine. I am
concerned the blower may fail at the height of the season; and the blower alone
is approximately $3,000 because it is actually used in wastewater treatment.
Mr. Gatti stated perhaps we should
include a new one in next years’ budget.
Mr. Ziko stated we may need it
before this.
Mr. Dick stated there are no parts
available for the aspirator and the de-fogging device because the machine is so
outdated. Therefore, we will not be able
to repair this if it fails.
Mr. Ziko asked how much lead time is
required from this manufacturer to purchase one?
Mr. Dick responded it will probably
take a couple of weeks.
Mr. Lambert asked are there any
other manufacturers selling these machines?
Mr. Dick responded
Mr. Lambert asked will this be on a
small trailer?
Mr. Dick responded the one they
demonstrated actually slides onto the back of a truck for someone who does this
on a daily basis. I would not want this
on the back of my truck. We can remove
the old machine and mount the new one on our trailer, which is in good shape.
Mr. Bissell moved to
allocate $7,000 in order to purchase a new mosquito control sprayer and Ms.
Dillon seconded the motion.
Mr. Lambert asked will we go out for
proposal or are we just going to state we only have a single source?
Mr. Bissell responded I believe we
should state there is only a single source, since this appears to be the case.
Mr. Dick stated I have not been able
to find another source.
Mr. Gatti stated most municipalities
use the company which produces sprayers to blow chemicals into trees, but it is
a large and loud blower.
Mr. Dick stated I will look into
this.
Mr. Gatti asked are you going to be
able to purchase the sprayer you need for $7,000?
Mr. Dick responded yes.
Mr. Ziko stated perhaps we should
consider amending this amount in the event we are short by $500.
Mr. Goscicki stated you may want to
amend the motion not to exceed $8,000.
On VOICE vote with all in
favor the prior motion was approved as amended in an amount not to exceed
$8,000.
Mr. Dick stated the DEP is at the
plant doing a wastewater plant inspection.
We do not anticipate any problems with this. There is a significant amount of construction
taking place at the plant which involves electrical and wastewater plant
upgrades. When the contractor cleared the
entire old park which is near the lift station at the North Hotel, they removed
the sewer collection system and water mains because it was on private property.
Mr. Benson stated it is on an
easement.
Mr. Dick asked are you referring to
the lift station?
Mr. Benson responded that is
correct. The water mains were on their
property and the lift station is on the CID easement. I spoke to the developer in the presence of
the owner’s attorney; and they were provided a copy of those easements. The gentleman contacted me a few days later to
acknowledge I was correct and they understood the facility is to remain in its
present location.
Mr. Dick stated they were under the
impression it was on their property and wanted to remove it.
Mr. Lambert asked are we using the
lift pump at all?
Mr. Dick responded the only reason
we are using it is for the North Hotel.
The contractor actually disconnected the electricity. They called the electric company and pulled
the meter.
Mr. Benson stated this was a
misunderstanding we corrected.
Mr. Dick stated on the last page of the
Operations Report is a bill from Eddie Bock’s Plumbing in the amount of $4,125 for
work done at the sales office coming on Newport Drive in which their sanitary
sewer lines were not working properly.
As you can see, there was a 10-day period in which they tried to
determine what the problem was and it was our contention no one ever informed
us there was a problem. Otis, the
maintenance man told me he tried us a couple of times, but we never received
any voice mail messages on the cell phone here or at the plant, even though
both are capable of taking messages.
This plumbing company determined there was nothing wrong with the
surface line and they proceeded to work on main, which is our property as opposed
to the hotel. They actually sent some
digital photos which showed a collapsed clay pipe full of sand and dirt. They removed this and installed a piece of
PVC pipe. The sales office is back in
service, but there is an outstanding invoice and we need to determine who is
responsible. There is no question the
main had a problem based on their photographs and it had to be repaired. However, we should have been notified, in
which case we would have made the repair.
I am not certain if the cost would have been less, but I believe they
made a temporary repair. We brought a television
truck down there earlier this week and ran our camera down the same gravity
main and we verified their repair.
However, it is actually leaking an insignificant amount of groundwater
and will have to be redone. There is
also additional fractured pipe further down in the same location they made
their repair with sand and water accumulating in the pipe. I am not prepared to say what needs to be
done today, but we are going to prepare a proposal to correct the problem. The more immediate concern is this plumbing
invoice. Mr. Edge is in the process of clarifying
how many hours were spent working on their service line which is not our
responsibility. Therefore, I want to
break this down and ensure there are no hours on this invoice related to their
service line.
Mr. Ziko asked who authorized the work?
Mr. Dick responded the hotel
authorized it.
Mr. Gatti asked why are they coming
to us?
Mr. Dick responded Otis told Mr.
Edge and he said he tried to call him on a certain day and Mr. Edge told him
there was no voice mail. Therefore, we
cannot confirm whether or not they actually called us. The bottom line is they replaced 10’ of pipe,
which had to be done, and there would have been some expense associated with
this repair whether it was done by them or us.
Mr. Bissell asked why will it have
to be redone?
Mr. Dick responded when they removed
the clay pipe, they put the PVC pipe in these rubber couplings with big
stainless steel clamps in order to repair this.
The gravity line is a terminal manhole and is the shallowest manhole on
the system, and it begins there and goes back to the lift station on
Mr. Benson stated it is old.
Mr. Lambert asked were they running
a lot of heavy equipment over there?
Mr. Dick responded it is certainly
not uncommon for this clay pipe to fracture over the years, but additional work
needs to be done. I am going to bring
the video in and we will put together a comprehensive report as to how much
needs to be done; whether it is going to be lined; has to be dug up and
repaired; and the cost to dig it up if there is not a lot of restoration to be
done. My first issue is whether we want
to negotiate this bill with the hotel, keeping in mind there was a collapsed
section of pipe which they repaired instead of us.
Mr. Lambert stated we should determine
their cost and if the remaining cost is nominal, we can pay it, but if it is
close to $3,000 or more, we should negotiate to pay half. They also need to know they should contact us
when these problems arise.
Mr. Dick stated our first response
would have been to bring our vacuum truck down and jet-rod the line. I will put together a comparison of the cost if
we handled the repair.
Mr. Lambert stated we also need to bring
this to their attention to ensure they do not do this on a regular basis.
Ms. Dillon stated we also need to
ensure there is no plan for these repairs in the future in order to avoid
duplication.
Mr. Ziko asked can you describe the
location of this line?
Mr. Dick responded it starts close to
U.S. 41.
Mr. Cox asked is this part of the
line you are going to replace for us?
Mr. Benson responded we are
replacing the water line. The exhibit in
the Engineer’s Report does not show the gravity sewer in the last section, but
if it is in the road, it is ours.
However, the exhibit showed the last piece of it because we were not
certain of its location. These
structures were built a long time ago, and these buildings had a gravity sewer
containing old clay pipes which went to the location of the old wastewater
plant.
Mr. Gatti asked what are we
authorizing you to do?
Mr. Dick responded first of all, I
am going to negotiate and work through this bill; determine how much was spent to
repair their actual service line; remove this from our cost; and determine the
final amount for repairing the main. Secondly,
we are going to continue evaluating the entire main to ensure there are no
other areas in danger of collapse and determine what needs to be done; whether
it can be lined with point repairs or whether it has to be dug up and
replaced. We will come next month with
some options to handle this.
Mr. Gatti asked what main are you
referring to?
Mr. Dick responded I am referring to
the gravity sewer main which all laterals tie into.
Mr. Gatti asked how large of an area
is the main serving?
Mr. Dick responded it goes all the
way back to the first lift station on
Mr. Gatti asked what is connected to
it?
Mr. Dick responded all of the units
are connected to it since it is a collection system.
Mr. Benson stated we do not provide
any mains on their property.
Mr. Dick stated we budgeted for
replacement of two water transfer pumps in this years’ capital budget. When the treated water comes out of the
filters, it goes into a stilling well which is pumped into the ground storage
tank. I have a proposal for two
five-horsepower, peerless pumps and motor assemblies; and we will provide all
of the equipment, materials and labor to replace this. The total projected cost is $9,887 based on a
budget of $10,000.
Mr. Lambert asked is there any
action required by the Board?
Mr. Goscicki responded you need to
approve the work authorization.
On MOTION by Mr. Gatti
seconded by Ms. Dillon with all in favor, Work Authorization No. ST 07-105 for
Severn Trent Services to provide equipment, materials and labor to replace two
five-horsepower, peerless pumps and motors at the water treatment plant in the
amount of $9,887 was approved.
Mr. Lambert asked what is the status
of the project Mr. Migdal presented to us?
Mr. Dick responded we are moving
forward as quickly as possible, but not as quickly as I would like with regards
to obtaining materials and ordering the BFDs and components. Since part of this is tied to our alarm
systems for the generators and DEP, it is imperative we proceed as quickly as possible.
Mr. Lambert asked have we satisfied
DEP requirements in proceeding with this?
Mr. Dick responded we corresponded with
them, but they were not satisfied with one of our responses in which the Board
approved these for at least six months. Therefore,
we are going to do some interim work which will meet their satisfaction. We will install temporary alarms, and proceed
to get the final ones which involve the telemetry out to the wells. For example, we lost power to both wells with
the storms last night. Obviously, our
plant storage had no issues, but this involves going out to the well field to
replace electrical components. Those
problems are supposed to be eliminated as a result of this project. I am pushing Mr. Migdal as fast as possible
for everyone’s benefit.
Mr. Lambert stated one of the two automatic
blow-offs which are on the end of the street where Ms. Dillon lives appeared to
have been running for at least 24 hours.
I showed this to Mr. Edge and he went back there. Is there any kind of maintenance which needs
to be done there?
Mr. Benson responded there is some
recommended maintenance which comes with those, and the company which sells
those units is in this area.
Mr. Dick stated there is a timer set
in there which we have set to go off. It
runs for 10 minutes each time we have it set to go off.
Ms. Dillon stated it runs longer.
Mr. Dick stated we will check this one
and call the supplier to inquire about the recommended maintenance.
Mr. Ziko asked is the berm near the
water treatment plant covered by pipe and is there a drain on it?
Mr. Benson asked are you referring
to the berm in Orchid Cove?
Mr. Ziko responded I am referring to
the berm at the back of the property running parallel to our drainage pipe.
Ms. Dillon stated I believe they are
preparing to put a road in.
Mr. Ziko stated you cannot see the
drainage pipe in the line. Are there any
plans for the work which is going to be done here which we can see?
Mr. Benson responded I am going to
discuss this during my report.
Mr. Ziko stated since
Mr. Benson stated I will cover this
during my report. With regards to the
berm, the pipe for the effluent is approximately five feet inside the easement
for the wetlands disposal, but they should not do anything which will impede
our use.
Mr. Dick stated Mr. Edge was out
there several times and he sent a report to me they were on this side of the
pipe, which was not affecting anything.
Mr. Benson stated with regards to the
side of the pipe which does not have an easement for the CID to use for
effluent disposal, I do not believe anything can be done about it, and it will
not impact us since all of our water goes in the other direction. They may potentially be doing this, but I
have not discussed it with them. However,
I want to assure you our water is not coming back onto their property, but I
really do not know what their intention is for the berm. It should not impact us, but I will stop
there after our meeting.
Ms. Dillon asked is Mr. Edge still
calling the county with regards to the median drainage?
Mr. Dick responded he had several
conversations with them, but I cannot tell you whether or not they are going to
make any changes.
Ms. Dillon stated perhaps you should
tell them we will take care of it and bill them, as it should be in the plans.
Mr. Edge was going to put another 25
mph speed limit sign on
Mr.
Dick stated I am not certain whether or not he took care of this.
Ms.
Dillon stated we asked for this because after you enter onto
Did
Mr. Edge get the results of the water sample test he did?
Mr. Dick responded they have not
come back yet.
Mr. Ziko stated I want to know if
the recipients of the lead and carbon testing are determined randomly since my
home has no lead and carbon pipes. Will
it be better if they go around to the people who have these lead and carbon
pipes in their homes?
Mr. Dick responded some of your
fittings and faucets contain copper and lead.
I am not certain how else we could do this without going around and
asking residents about their plumbing.
We create the sampling point and get it approved by the DEP, after which
we select approximately 30 different locations.
However, we are currently on reduced monitoring. A community of this size needs 20 samples and
they reduced us to 10 because we have not had any corrositivity problems and
the copper samples have been passing as low.
However, this is a good point and I will discuss it with Mr. Edge. Since your water is not corrosive, we do not
expect any problems.
Ms. Dillon stated a resident at last
months’ meeting discussed an issue in which trees were causing a line of sight
issue as well as the need for a Stop sign over here. We told her we were not going to put a Stop
sign on
Mr. Dick stated I looked at this area
and noticed a large clump of landscaping in the median, creating a blind spot when
a driver is trying to make the turn.
Mr. Ziko stated I believe the Stop
sign should be for pedestrians crossing
Mr. Dick stated drivers need to use
caution when making the left turn.
Mr. Ziko stated the Stop sign should
be in the area where you make the left turn before you cross enabling drivers
and pedestrians to look down the road.
Ms. Dillon stated since I believe
this is our property, perhaps you can discuss this with Soto and request them
to trim the medians along the street.
SIXTH ORDER OF BUSINESS Attorney’s
Report
Mr. Cox stated I trust the Orchid
Cove agreement has gone out, but I have not received a response back, although
I am certain they are still looking at it.
I
have not received confirmation from Mr. Wanklyn as to whether or not he was
going to propose the one-year extension which we discussed at the last
meeting. I just found out he is out of
the country, but I spoke to his attorney and asked him if he can find out
whether or not they are going to approve this, so I can release your money out of
escrow. I hope to hear from him within
the next couple of days.
Mr. Ziko asked are you aware the
state changed the bonding requirements for the sewage treatment plant and
facilities such as ours?
Mr. Cox responded I am not aware of
this.
Mr. Ziko stated they are making it
more stringent and I believe in approximately three to five years from now we
are going to need to float another bond for our updated sewage treatment
plant. Perhaps you can check into this and
follow up since I read in the newspaper it requires 100% approval of the people
in the community.
Mr. Cox asked are you referring to
the bond?
Mr. Ziko responded that is
correct. This change just came about
last week in the state.
Mr. Cox stated I will look into
this, but I believe this is something different than what you are referring
to. It is not possible for them to make
it a 100% requirement for a bond issue under these circumstances.
Mr. Ziko stated since they made an
issue of this in the newspaper, I am concerned.
Mr. Cox stated I will try to find
this newspaper article.
SEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS Engineer’s
Report
Mr. Benson stated I have a number of
issues I want to discuss with you today.
The engineer for the developer at the hotel has spoken to me within the
last few weeks. There are two informal
items which I believe I need to mention.
First of all, they are likely to be required by
Mr. Bissell stated we have
approximately five feet from the edge of the blacktop. Will the sidewalk be within this area?
Mr. Benson responded I believe the
right-of-way you are referring to is not really wide, but it will probably be on
the other side of the road with the pedestrian crossing in the wide
right-of-way. The sidewalk will run
along the road, cross it and run on the other side of the road. I believe the county is trying to provide a
pedestrian path from the bridge on Route 41 past the marina, which I personally
believe is a positive thing. Therefore, I
did not have any reason to tell them you would likely turn them down, but I did
tell them you must approve use of your right-of-way. It is also likely the county will require them
to do some landscaping on the west side of the road in which they are going to
put in some storage. Therefore, they may
request to work with the CID to install and maintain landscaping at their own expense. They may request you allow them to put the
landscaping in your right-of-way for beautification.
Ms. Dillon stated I thought Mr.
Shucart owned this property, unless I am thinking of the wrong property in
which the storage area is currently located along with the front lot on Route
41.
Mr. Benson stated they do not own
the front lot which has been used by the state, nor have they made a
proposal. I told them if they propose to
do anything to beautify the area at their cost, you would likely be willing to allow
them to put plantings in the right-of-way since it is currently large and
unattractive. They do not own it and
they cannot do anything about it, but they can plant some additional
landscaping at their own cost to help buffer the area.
Mr. Ziko stated perhaps they can
give us a layout of what they are asking for.
Mr. Benson stated I believe they
will do this, but I just wanted to inform you since I have been suggesting they
make it as nice as possible.
Mr. Lambert stated if they can get
us a plan of what they want to do as quickly as possible, I am certain we can
work with them.
Mr. Benson stated another area where
I had communication this month is the old RV and gun club properties north of
the North Hotel. Their engineer and
developer spoke to me this month and we also had a discussion on Wednesday
afternoon in which they identified items they will likely propose to the
CID. As of Thursday morning, they were
going to submit these items today. I
believe they will basically bring you a proposal as a starting point and they
understand I do not approve these items without your approval. I will give an engineering approval if it is required,
but not unless you tell me it is acceptable.
Use of your right-of-ways is your decision. However, the gentleman through his engineer told
me he will not make his proposal of these potential items today.
Ms. Dillon asked is he unprepared?
Mr. Benson responded I believe one
of the items in the proposal required an additional partner to sign off on the project.
Ms. Dillon asked have you seen a
site development plan?
Mr. Benson responded I have seen one
and it was going to be distributed today, but they are not prepared to discuss
it
We
had some discussion with regards to future development of the water and
wastewater plant site at previous meetings.
We will have to apply for an SDP in order to modify our use, and I was
looking at a number of issues as we started the process. The first issue relates to how the site
should conform to
With
regards to your discussions on sites for fire stations, after the new water
plant is built the property where the current one is located may be able to be
used for a fire station. I am not
proposing anything, but I am trying to think ahead while we are doing this SDP
because even if you were to acquire some property adjacent to the water and
wastewater plant through the mechanisms making this possible, Mr. Cox and I believe
you probably want to have it all as one parcel of land from an SDP standpoint
and may potentially rezone it to public use.
I am not certain whether or not this is necessary, but the main benefit
is you will not need setbacks and landscaping between parcels. Therefore, if you had a fire station on CID
property and considered it a multi-use public facility, I believe we must have
setbacks and landscaping between all of the different uses. Is this correct?
Mr. Cox responded I have not looked
at this in a long time, but I am going to have to check the cost comparisons.
Mr. Benson stated it will probably cost
much less and this may be one possible advantage of having it as one
parcel. However, I have not looked at
the details of the savings either.
Mr. Goscicki stated these setback
requirements are only necessary on public roads. You need to determine whether it is necessary
to keep it as a public road or fence it off and have the property on both
sides. Do we need to allow any access
down this road?
Mr. Cox responded the state owns
property down there which used to only have access through
Mr. Goscicki stated it will become a
road and you eliminate the setback requirement giving yourself more
flexibility.
Mr. Ziko asked have the homes back
there been torn down?
Mr. Dick responded they are gone.
Mr. Benson stated the state owns the
land. You can get private people to get
access to this land.
Mr. Ziko stated we only need access
to the well field.
Mr. Benson stated you have access to
the tower which is to the right of the exhibit as well as the gun club property. There are currently multiple parcels including
two or three within the RV park, but the gun club is considered a separate parcel. The gun club people may be driving across the
RV park property today, but if it is owned by two different parties in which the
road going to the gun club is a private road exiting
Mr. Lambert stated I suggest we hold
a workshop sometime in the future. I am
not certain how far away we want to do this, but I believe we need to discuss
when we are going to get our water plant, sewer plant and irrigation. We also need to determine whether or not an
additional building for storage and an office is necessary, as well as a fire
station. Since we may be hearing
something from the RV park people soon, I believe we need to set up this
workshop. All of you will have a better idea
as to how far off you want to set this up in order to be prepared and determine
how it may fit in with information from the RV and gun club people. This workshop should be dedicated to
discussing where we are going in the future.
Mr. Benson stated our firm was going
to start proceeding with the SDP for this property soon, but when I started
working on some of the concepts of trying to utilize your property I decided we
probably should not rush into the SDP.
Therefore, I stopped internal work on the SDP process. I will distribute my schedule as an update in
a few minutes and you will notice an item from last month in which we had a
date for the SDP to be ready to go to the county. However, this date is not firm because I am
going to take more time to get your input, but this was prepared to keep you as
part of the process and appreciate why I was not rushing. The second reuse tank is important and is scheduled
to be done this year. Although I do not
have a proposal for the SDP work yet, I have a proposal for the engineering of
the tank, which we can discuss. Once I
start hearing from the engineer and the developer for the former RV park
property, things may change. However, they
outlined a proposal which you can review and add additional requirements which
may not be in the current proposal. Moving
the road frees up potentially what we can do on our property, but they may have
a reason for owning the road in this location.
Mr. Lambert stated I believe it is
important they know we are looking into the future of what needs to be done in
order to keep our facilities where they need to be. It may be appropriate for them to attend the
workshop and make a presentation.
However, I believe there should be a meeting dealing only with this
issue in order to try to come to a consensus of where we are headed in the
future; and there may be an actual need for space, additional tanks and
equipment.
Mr. Benson stated this footprint is
labeled Water Treatment Plant which
will be a fairly large membrane-type water plant with storage and offices.
Mr. Ziko stated I noticed the water
treatment plant is not within the required design limits on your first
layout. Are we running into another plot
of land?
Mr. Benson responded this structure
was built a long time ago. When we did
the SDP which showed additions made to this property, the county never
questioned us after it was already on the site.
If we wanted to build a new building in a location similar to this, they
are strict with regards to enforcing those setbacks. Therefore, I do not believe they are going to
allow you to put a new building in this location.
Ms. Dillon stated moving the road
will give us the setback we need.
Mr. Benson stated the setbacks in
place today are the same setbacks which were in place in 1991 and 1992, when we
did the last SDP. I do not know what the
zoning or setbacks were when the first building was built, which was before
1970. However, they were not as thorough
in those days.
Mr. Lambert asked what do you
believe the proper timeframe should be to schedule the workshop?
Mr. Benson responded as of late
Wednesday afternoon they were going to have a proposal ready for discussion
purposes of a number of issues for today’s meeting. However, they called late yesterday afternoon
and told me not to discuss the proposal because it was not ready. I understand it was literally hours or days
away from being given to you. Therefore,
I believe they will be ready next month.
Mr. Lambert stated I am not certain
where the rest of the Board stands on doing this and whether we should do it as
a second half of a meeting date or a separate date, but I personally believe we
need to start getting some plans prepared for the future.
Mr. Ziko stated I want to see this in
conjunction with the entire plan they are proposing.
Mr. Benson stated they showed me
their plan earlier this week and when they give me this information with their
proposal, I can prepare an exhibit prior to the next meeting reflecting how
their proposal may impact this parcel.
This may create some modifications which may potentially be more
beneficial to you.
Mr. Ziko stated when the old RV park
wanted to get out, they demolished everything.
They moved an awful lot of dirt and they dredged out the pond to get
more fill to put on the land. Is there
some sort of a permit with the county which we could see in order to determine
what they are doing is allowed?
Mr. Benson responded they do not
have an SDP pending. Since you need to
have permits for almost everything, I assume they must have a clearing or
excavation permit, but I am not certain.
Mr. Ziko asked should a permit or
notice of what they are doing be posted on the land?
Mr. Benson responded I am not
certain since I really do not know much about Collier County Code Enforcement.
Mr. Lambert stated I do not believe
we have any authority in this regard unless it is impacting our sewer, water or
infrastructure.
Mr. Benson stated any citizen can
call code enforcement and make a suggestion.
Although I do not know what they are doing, it does not impact us to my
knowledge. However, I will check on the
berm near our pipe. There have been
statements made about some of our easements which we corrected, and they
understand this. I do not believe anyone
was trying to do anything because they know where are easements are located and
will stay away from them. They
acknowledged this to me after we made it clear and they checked with their
title company and attorneys.
We
have been going back and forth for many months on your behalf to try to get
everything taken care of with Better Roads and I believe everything is complete. We are working with them to get the final bill
and it has been going pleasantly. Although
there were a couple of areas which were not satisfactory, I think they actually
went a little further than they had to, and took care of everything in the
end. Mr. Powell was the Project Manager
for Better Roads and he responded to one of the letters we sent on your behalf. Although most of his statements were probably
accurate, the tone of the letter was lost and perhaps he was not representing
their firm very well.
Mr.
Lambert asked did they take care of all of the punch list items?
Mr. Benson responded yes. When we receive the final invoice, it will go
to Mr. Teague for processing and it will be less than we authorized because
there were some items which did not get taken care of including a large change
order which you authorized up to $25,000 to do the work which the hotel is
going to reimburse you for. We are going
to ensure this gets on their invoice accurately.
I
will go through my updated report which I have been distributing at the past
couple of meetings.
Item #1 and #2
Preliminary
meetings with
Mr. Lambert asked is a structure
required to enclose it?
Mr. Benson responded yes. However, we wanted to do this and I will
discuss it further at the end of my report.
Item #3
I will also come back to this item
at the end of my report.
Item #4
Since
this item is no longer necessary, I will delete it from my report.
Item #5 and Item #7
The
completion date of September 28, 2007 is going to be delayed since we want to
ensure all of the equipment is ordered, but this is not on a critical path.
Item #6
I
will discuss this item at the end of the report.
Item #8
You
authorized Severn Trent to install additional pump and tank controls last month
for the fire and irrigation pump station located at the wastewater plant in
order for it to pump water from your existing tank and from the proposed
tank. I believe this work should be
underway shortly.
Mr. Dick stated we had a
preconstruction meeting and the work is underway.
Item #9
Mr. Benson stated I was going to have
an initial meeting with the county on the SDP for the wastewater and water
plant site prior to this meeting, but I made the decision not do this and
instead decided to present some conceptual ideas to you. We were hoping to have more information, but
we are not rushing to meet a deadline on this.
Item #10 & #10a
We
had a target date at the end of this month to get you a proposal to do the work
for the design of the tank as well as the SDP for the site. I broke this down to two phases since we are delaying
the SDP. I do not have an actual letter
or work order, but I have the attachment which goes with the document. I believe we have $400,000 in the budget for
construction costs of which 15% is for the estimate for engineering assistance
during design and construction of the tank.
Our staff put together a man-hour estimate to show you the different design
issues which are involved as well as the assistance in construction of a tank
of this nature. I told them to keep it
under 15% of the $400,000, but they came in at $580 over 15%. I am not asking for action today, but I will
bring you the actual work order which we refer to in the attachment next month
which you can look at and we can discuss if this is acceptable.
Item #11, #12, #13, #14
I
am going to leave the dates we indicated for the work on the SDP for the water
and wastewater plant site until we can come up with a schedule for the entire
project which will include the workshop meeting we discussed earlier.
Item #15
The electrical upgrades at the water
and wastewater treatment plant are on schedule with their completion date of
October 15, 2007. However, Lee County
Electric Co-op Power Supply comes through a transformer. As Mr. Edge and I mentioned last month, there
was a switchover during some construction activity by the electrical contractor
on the site, and it became apparent there was a deficiency in the Lee County
Co-op transformer. I believe the
transformer was being used through the emergency procedure in which power constantly
goes through the wiring because the main way in which the switch is flipped had
some kind of a wiring problem. We called
both Severn Trent and Hole Montes; and the electrical contractor involved met
with the Lee County Electrical Co-op who said they were not aware of the
problem, and the only person who probably knew the transformer had a problem no
longer works for them. However, the
Co-op told us they will take care of it.
Mr. Lambert asked were they going to
put underground transformers in?
Mr. Benson responded it is a
ground-mounted transformer.
Mr. Edge stated Lee County
Electrical Co-op came here the other day and I did not know what was going on
out there. However, I am now aware there
was a light out on the line which was corrected. This line also commuted and ran off of the
water and wastewater treatment plant. The
automatic transfer switch has always been on emergency power as long as I have
been here because the light is out and the reason LCEC came out is because they
recognized we were not using any power over there or at the meter.
Mr. Benson stated this is because it
is a back-feeder.
Mr. Edge stated we are getting power
from the sewer plant.
Mr. Benson stated it is being billed
on the wastewater plant meter. This is
going to get taken care of as part of these upgrades.
Mr. Edge stated this entire issue is
going to be eliminated as soon as Gulf States Electrical comes back next
week. They will coordinate with LCEC and
terminate the line as they get everything else situated and organized.
Ms. Dillon asked will this work
cause a power outage?
Mr. Edge responded I do not believe
so since we have power coming from the wastewater plant.
Mr. Benson stated since we were not
involved in this, I do not know the specifics, but I heard after the water
plant work was done it was electrically connected to the wastewater plant which
is not normal and is part of the reason why we are doing this project.
Item #16, #17
The generator is still on hold.
Item #18
Severn
Trent is going to purchase the equipment, which can be coordinated by Mr. Dick
and I. Those mixers are going to replace
the old ones as soon as the switchover to the MBR is made at the wastewater
plant.
Item #19
The contractor is currently working on
this. They will be substantially
complete with the system operating on November 19th. However, these dates are proposed. I believe the reason for the delays is their unfamiliarity
with the length of time for the
Mr. Edge responded they cannot pour
concrete until Gulf States Electrical runs conduit for their wiring.
Mr. Benson stated something happened
with the electrical contractor who was working for them and they hired
Mr. Edge stated they have not
started anything on this particular section, but they are going to be back at
the site next week working on the remaining upgrades for the water treatment
plant. I am not certain of their
estimated timeframe for the MBR, but I can talk to them next week.
Mr. Benson stated they updated us a
couple of days ago and said they were going to pour concrete. They built all of their equipment on a couple
of skids which are going to be set on a pad; thereby minimizing time on site which
they used when they shipped the equipment to Orlando to put these skids
together. According to their report, they
are going to start underground piping and conduit at the end of August, which I
do not believe to be the case.
Mr. Edge asked are you referring to
Mr. Benson responded I am referring
to Encore and Parkson.
Mr. Edge stated they already built
the form for the concrete.
Mr. Benson stated I am not certain
we can do anything to force them to make up the November 19th date. We may be able to push them to be ahead of this,
but it is not going to be in conjunction with the contract. They are asking for a 56-day extension to get
this substantially complete. They asked
for an extension to February 21st, but we told them they are going
to have to do better. We know they
cannot make it all up, but they should be making up a part of it on the final
and we are going to work with them on this.
Mr. Lambert asked are they
requesting any payments?
Mr. Benson responded they have done
a lot of work without asking for payment.
Upon final completion, I am going to tell them they must get this done
and I am going to try to negotiate something before November 19th.
We have done everything possible
over the last number of years to protect the CID’s rights to withdraw water for
your irrigation system and been successful.
I believe you currently have a 10-year permit for the canal pump
station. In order to do this, we had to
develop an overall plan of how the reuse water was going to be used in
conjunction with the water from the canal and the potable water wells in order to
get our permit extension. SFWMD staff gave
a presentation to this Board approximately one year ago with regards to the
project in which they were going to change the way the water flows to the north
of us. They have been inconsistent with
what they are going to do when they make all of these flow changes. I recall SFWMD people commenting that their
modeling has given many different answers.
You will have less water during the wet season, but basically they are
going to have to store it in a holding area to give us a higher water table
during the dry season. However, I do not
believe they know the schedule for all of this proposed work. I asked at one of the meetings if the SFWMD
will have to basically force the CID to give them a replacement in the event this
plan for the SFWMD goes through; the CID does not have water; and we have a
water use permit. There was a meeting
with some people in
Ms. Dillon stated I believe it is
definitely worth pursuing.
Mr. Benson stated I am not promising
anything.
Mr. Lambert stated we should
probably get something on the record.
Mr. Benson stated the time was not
right in the past, and my position on your behalf has always been to do
everything possible to protect those water rights and obtain the 10-year
renewal. Perhaps I should speak to Mr.
Cox first. Do you have any input on this
subject?
Mr. Cox responded we probably should
have a conference before proceeding in order to ensure we are all in
concurrence even though I agree with everything you are saying.
Mr. Benson stated I am not proposing
to threaten them, but we may have to in the event we suddenly did not have any
water. Since I believe they are aware
this is a possibility, they can probably give us a grant.
Ms. Dillon stated all of this work
we are doing may have to be put on hold.
Mr. Benson stated you may save money
over the long term.
Mr. Lambert stated they need to
understand the ramifications up front.
Mr. Benson stated when we talked to
them they were not certain where they stood on this project or what it was
going to do to us. However, it appears
there are some people who are starting to believe it may be a good idea.
Mr. Ziko asked how far along are we
with the work on the pump station?
Mr. Benson responded the design is almost
ready.