MINUTES OF THE MEETING
OF THE PORT OF THE ISLANDS
COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT
DISTRICT
The regular meeting of the Board of Supervisors of the Port
of the Islands Community Improvement District was held Friday, April 29, 2005
at 10:00 a.m. at the Egret Room, 25000 Tamiami Trail, and Naples, Florida.
Present and constituting a quorum
were:
Richard Gatti Chairman
Dale Lambert Vice Chairman
Ted Bissell Assistant
Secretary
Norine Dillon Assistant
Secretary
Dick Ziko Assistant
Secretary
Also present were:
Ed Goscicki Manager
Dan Cox Attorney (by phone)
Ron
Benson Engineer
Tim Stephens Field manager
Tom Mack Staff
Patricia McNally Resident
Liz Hazelbaker Henderson,
Franklin, et al.
Lane Wood Salvatore &
Wood
Marlene Marchand RV
Park
Jim Landis Island
Resorts
Numerous Residents
FIRST
ORDER OF BUSINESS Roll
Call
Mr.
Lambert called the meeting to order and called the roll.
SECOND
ORDER OF BUSINESS Approval
of the Minutes of the January 28 and March 24, 2005 Meetings
Mr. Lambert stated each Board member received a copy of the
minutes of the January 28 meeting and requested any additions, corrections or
deletions.
Ms.
Dillon asked did we approve the January 28th minutes last month?
Mr.
Lambert responded no, I think you just approved the February minutes.
Ms.
Dillon stated I believe it is on Page 2 of the minutes of March 24th.
Mr.
Lambert stated we did not approve the January minutes. I added a list of attachments.
On MOTION by Mr. Bissell seconded by Mr. Lambert with all in favor the
minutes of the meetings of January 28, 2005 were approved as amended.
Mr. Lambert stated each
Board member received a copy of the minutes of the March 23, 2005 meeting and
requested any additions, corrections or deletions. I have given Mr. Goscicki some
small changes.
On MOTION by Ms. Dillon seconded by Mr. Ziko with all in favor the
minutes of the meetings of March 23, 2005 were approved as amended.
THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS Discussion
Items
A. Mosquito Control Options
Mr. Lambert stated the
next item is mosquito control. At that
last meeting we decided to put this on as an agenda item. Did you have a chance to look into cost?
Mr. Goscicki responded
yes, Collier County does not do this as part of their governmental
program. Collier County Mosquito Control
District overlays Fiddler's Creek and Key Marco CDD. Those improvement districts are within the
Mosquito Control District and pass off that assessment to the Mosquito
District.
We discussed with them the Board's desire for them to possibly provide
services here. This is new to them. They have never worked outside their district
before. We told them we would like to continue
some discussions and they had some reservations, because they have never done
this and are not sure how to price or structure a program outside of their
district.
Within their district they have double costs and double budget, which
results in assessments. They have not
looked at how to relate the assessment into a fee applied to others and whether
or not it is within their jurisdiction to do so. We are going to follow up with them a bit
more. At the same time, I would like the
Board's permission to explore some other private options to bring back to the
Board for more alternatives.
Mr. Lambert stated it appears we could get the same prices they are using
on their website. It is pretty
cheap. I am sure there is some economy
of scale there. I do not know whether we
could become a part of their district and what would be involved with it.
One problem is Collier County Mosquito Control District predominantly
uses aerial applications for their treatment and aerial applications are
prohibited in this area.
Mr. Goscicki stated that was one of their concerns. To do mosquito control here, because of the
environmentally sensitive community we are in, it will require special
precautions and special methodologies.
Mr. Lambert stated did you have a chance to speak with Mr. Stephens? If we were to upgrade what we do, what kind
of hours will be involved and what will it take for manpower?
Mr. Goscicki responded no, we have not scoped that out internally yet.
Ms. McNally stated my understanding of what they do and how they expend
is slightly different. I spoke to
someone who will not be quoted. They
have an expansion policy on the website.
The position statement states as the population of a given area
increases, it is inevitable that the district will expand.
They have expanded in 2000, 2001, 2003 and 2004. The person I spoke to said, had you applied
three years ago, because of your discreet area, surrounded not by other areas,
we probably would have said no. On the
other hand, last year in 2004, they took on an area surrounded by other areas
not treated. The person I spoke to
suggested an expansion procedure. It is
an application process. It seems two
things will help us enormously. The backing and approval of Mr. Colletta and
the backing and approval of the committee.
We are primarily an older community and an expanding community. Our concern is about health. That is their
procedure that one follows. I feel it is
a good idea to follow the application procedure. The millage rate .0962 is for
your particular area involved.
Mr. Lambert stated it will be on your tax bill every year.
Mr. Goscicki stated I was not aware they could not spray out here with an
aerial. That really changes the scope of
this effort.
Ms. McNally stated they have over five different methods of application
and only one is aerial spraying.
Mr. Goscicki stated we checked with the district to see if they were
willing to provide service through an interlocal agreement. I thought they were part of the County
governmental programs. I discovered this
was a Special District so we were approaching it again through recognizing we
were outside the district, what was their posture as to providing services
through an interlocal or some other kind of contractual arrangement with the
District.
They are expanding the district all the time. Another good step is for this District to ask
the Mosquito Control District to consider expansion of the district to include
Port of the Islands and take it up in front of them then we could prepare the
required application.
Mr. Lambert asked will we be committed in any way in making that
application?
Mr. Goscicki stated let me do some research with our attorney to make
sure. I assume making an application
would not bind you if accepted. I
appreciate your concern and want to make sure you know what you are getting
into. I will follow up and look into
what will be required. I appreciate Ms.
McNally's research.
Mr. Lambert stated one of the things I know about going into that
organization is now we at least can call Mr. Stephens and ask him to spray
again in the morning. We probably will not be accommodated in this way once we
become part of that organization.
I will obtain pricing from other independent services and this way the
Board will have some options to look at in terms of the Mosquito Control
District. As part of the Mosquito
Control District you will get into a levalized service that they provide to all
of their customers. Mosquito Control,
even though a levalized service, they still respond to individual needs as the
problem arises, as a level of service, they provide once a month spraying every
place, Mosquito Control as a reactive kind of service. Those are the things we want to explore to
get an understanding of the level of service.
They indicated they would be happy to come here and discuss this with
the Board. I will invite them to
participate if the Board desires, at the next meeting and give a presentation
as to what they will do in that regard.
Ms. Dillon stated my questions are effectiveness and frequency. We are surrounded by mosquito breeding areas.
Mr. Cox stated that is really a large part of the problem with the type
of applications Mr. Stephens is doing.
We are treating this pocket within this wide area. They are treating larvae. You do not spray for adults, right?
Mr. Stephens responded adults are all we are doing now.
Mr. Cox stated they may be treating larvae, but you are only treating
this area and right after you treat, you get a good wind and you have just
blown in a whole new crew of mosquitoes.
Since they cannot do aerial applications, they do not do areas outside of
the Port, whether it will be any more effective having the Mosquito Control
District, especially in regards to your question about being able to call them
and have additional special applications whenever you have a problem. Cost-effectiveness, I forget what the assessed
values out here are now.
Mr. Bissell responded $106,000.
Mr. Cox stated so that is roughly a tent of $1 million. It works out to roughly $10,600 the residents
would be paying and our budget is $13,000.
You are not getting substantial cost savings, only $2 per ERC, to give
up the responsiveness of having your own control over this.
Mr. Ziko asked could we use our own control in addition to this?
Mr. Cox responded once you are accepted into the district, you have to
pay the full millage. The law and the
constitution require all taxes be levied equally against all people subject to
them. You will actually have
double. You will pay them and you have
to budget yourself, so you will have to spend substantially more money.
Mr. Ziko stated the Board is not going to pay them. Each individual is going to pay them. We will still have the opportunity to ask Mr.
Stephens to apply another treatment when they are bad.
Mr. Cox stated are you getting any cost citing, overall to the residents
of the Board. If you have both systems
in place, I just do not see that.
Ms. Dillon stated it depends on the effectiveness.
Mr. Cox stated the effectiveness is going to be limited. They are not going to be any more effective
than you are right now. They are going
to have to use the same application techniques.
Ms. McNally stated the conversation seems to be comparing apples to
apples, which is not true. I do not know
how much or how little we are being sprayed, but I know when I have called to
say it is terrible here, it has not resulted in an extra spraying.
There is a Mosquito Control Board.
According to their statutes, their very last rebound is individual
telephone calls. It always resulted in
someone doing additional sprayings.
The other important thing is they have five stages of sprays. They spray for larvae, they spray adults and
they spray for pupa and for pheromones, depending upon the situation and they
test weekly. If you become a member of
the Board you are welcome to call them and tell them that such and such is
needed.
At the bounds of my Condo, they have never sprayed. I have a drainage ditch there.
Mr. Lambert stated we have discussed why that has not been sprayed.
Ms. McNally stated we are not comparing what is there. It sounds like what we do now is just fine
and it is not.
Mr. Lambert stated we will have staff look into it a bit more.
Mr. Goscicki stated we will have a member of the mosquito come in and
make a presentation at the next Board meeting and describe their level of
service and their application process.
We got into this conversation, not on a cost issue, but on a service
level. You recognize Mr. Stephens is
your operator, wastewater operator, field crew and the mosquito control
agent. Part of his challenge is that
staff is stretched very thin and how do we address improving service
effectively.
Mr. Lambert stated so we will put this on the agenda again next month and
take it further.
B. Committee Representation of the Board
Mr. Lambert stated the next item is committee representation on the
Board. We have a couple of situations of
committees doing some legwork for the Board.
Mr. Cox and Mr. Goscicki would like to address the Board concerning
this.
Mr. Goscicki stated Mr. Cox can handle this as it is more of a legal
issue than a management issue in terms of representation of the Board.
Mr. Cox stated it goes back to what authority these committees have. As long as they are fact gathering and they
report back to you to take action, based on the facts they gather; that is
fine. If they do anything other than
that, that is where we got into discussion on whether they can send a letter on
behalf of the CID. The answer is
no. Their activities will then become
subject to the Sunshine Law. They can
only meet in noticed public hearings. A
record would have to be kept before they could take any action, including
correspondence on behalf of the District.
They can only be a fact-gathering committee.
Mr. Lambert asked can a member of the Board send a letter on letterhead?
Mr. Cox responded only an after this Board has authorized that
action.
Mr. Lambert asked does that have to be specific to each letter sent?
Mr. Cox responded yes; they are then taking action on behalf of the
Board.
Ms. Dillon asked so, there is no way a time sensitive issue could get a
letter out from this Board before a month goes by before we could do it?
Mr. Cox responded we could call a special meeting if we have sufficient
time to advertise it. If it is a matter
essential to the health, safety and welfare of residents, we could hold an
emergency meeting, which only requires reasonable notice, which can be much
shorter; it can be done different ways, but this is a local public government
and has to act that way.
Mr. Goscicki stated if it is a ministerial issue, letters can go out
through the manager or the attorney. If
you are sending a letter to another entity requesting an action, as we did this
morning; if we wanted to request Mosquito Control to come give a presentation,
I want permission from the Board for something like that.
Ms. Dillon stated you will bring up a letter from the Board anyway and
present a letter from the committee.
They will want a letter from the Board to make if more official.
Mr. Lambert asked is it too late to send a letter to those people?
Ms. Dillon responded no, he is willing to accept a letter from the Board
now, after the letter you sent to him.
Mr. Lambert stated it becomes hard to use a committee to do anything for
us and gather together information. Once
the committee gathers this information, how can we disperse it?
Mr. Cox responded they come before this Board at a noticed public
hearing, just like today and present you with the facts. You discuss it. You reach a decision and then we can act on
your behalf as staff and prepare a letter for the Chairman's signature.
Mr. Lambert asked is it best to have the Board involved with these
committees?
Mr. Goscicki responded it depends on the will of the Board.
Mr. Ziko asked if we need to call an additional meeting during the month,
what sort of time frame do we need to advertise this and where is it being
advertised?
Mr. Cox responded it is advertised in the Naples Daily News. We have to advertise seven days before a
meeting, so we give it to them about three days before they advertise. We need a ten-day lead time.
Mr. Ziko asked where is it in the Naples Daily New? I read it cover to cover and have never seen
it.
Mr. Cox responded it has to be anywhere other than the legal
advertisement section.
Mr. Lambert asked is the agenda advertised at all?
Mr. Cox responded no; it is says notice of the meeting of the Board of
Supervisors of the Port of the Islands Community Improvement District. It gives the address. Anybody who feels like they are going to
challenge the Board's actions is responsible for providing a transcript. That lets us off the hook of doing verbatim
transcripts of every meeting and having a court reporter.
Mr. Lambert stated I received an e-mail from a resident who was wondering
if there is a way we can post the agenda or e-mail it out to people to say it
is coming up?
Mr. Cox responded my concerns in going beyond the scope of what the law
actually requires are, if we forget one time, somebody will question we are not
doing things properly. We have
established a practice and procedure. We
comply with the requirements of the statues and do not impose additional
requirements on ourselves.
Ms. Dillon stated my feeling on the agenda going out to people, is it
does not really tell you much.
Mr. Cox stated it can leave you open.
Item 5, in this agenda, such as audience comments and Supervisor
requests, anything can come up at these meetings.
Ms. Dillon asked with regard to the fire station, do we need a letter
signed by the Board to go to an individual in Collier County? Can we just draft a letter and bring it to
the Board for approval and signing?
Mr. Cox responded if you get it done in time, it can be included in the
agenda package, so you have some time to think about it before you get here.
Mr. Lambert asked would it be on a letterhead?
Mr. Cox responded yes.
Ms. Dillon stated one frustration of this Board is how long it takes to
do anything.
C. Open Items
Mr.
Lambert stated the open items list was e-mailed out to everyone.
Mr.
Mack stated we started by meeting with Mr. Somers, the head of emergency
services, to find out how to get this started.
We covered where to start and what has to be done. Basically, we had to buy land. Collier County will not purchase land. We will have to supply a piece of property
for the fire station. Orchard Cove, we
still do not know what is going on over there and all the other factors. He suggested we apply for a grant and that
sort of thing. We went from there to
leasing property. Prior to that, I spoke
with people who are English representatives here. They have two parcels on Cays Drive and 41 on
the east and west side. One is a
1.9-acre and the other is three acres. They
did not want to sell the property, but will lease it to us. I tried to get a rough draft of a lease out
of them, covering items like if they want us to pay the taxes plus a certain
amount per month. The problem with the
parcel is there are twenty ERC's on it and the taxes come to $18,500. For rent, we are talking about almost $30,000
a year. The problem with the ERC's is
whether or not the Board can do something, mostly assessments on it. As far as budgeting goes, it usually takes
about five years from start to finish.
If it goes into a fast track mode, which I recommend, it could take
approximately two years. When we left
here three weeks ago, there was a cover letter to my letter. This was where we got into the discussion on
Board participation. The letter had the
Board's letterhead on it to make it official.
That went around for about two weeks.
It got to the point that I could not wait a whole month to discuss
whether or not we could give them a letter, saying we had a meeting a month ago
and this is what we discussed and briefly what we covered. They had to get that into the budget. Right now they are going into the second
phase of the 2006 budget. He is going to
get it somehow into the budget, if he can, for this year. That will at least get things started, paying
for a fire station. We are talking about
$600,000 and something. There is not
much money left to pass around to the other departments.
Regarding this Orchard Cove thing, at
that time, we only had 40,000 square feet.
We requested to move the lake over.
Mr. Benson told me they did, so we have almost two new acres there. The problem is they only put the vacant land
on the site plan. We need him to put
down the fire station or towards community use, one or the other, to get this
through. What he stated on the site plan
is not going to get approved. Chief
Wilson stated that to us and the Board should state that to Rennar or whoever
these people are, they put fire station or community use, one or the
other. This will help get it approved
and get the funding. Also, I discussed
with Mr. Lambert, having a community center.
We do not have one. The community
center would probably take up to 1,000 square feet. There is a great opportunity for attaching a
fire station there. Cost-wise, you are
talking around $100,000. We need ten
square feet per person, according to an architect I consulted. It is a great opportunity we should consider,
if we have to put a bond out there. A
fire station will require two ERCs, one for a fire hydrant and one for the
station. Basically, that is about it,
but I had to respond with a letter after the meeting we had. That is why we had discussion regarding the
use of the Board letterhead. He
forwarded my letter, along with his copy to get this moving and see this does
not get buries somewhere. If you want to
send another letter from the Board saying yes, this is authorized and on track,
that is fine.
As of this morning, there is another
option that came to me and there was a temporary one we can discuss both. Now we have a couple of different options as
far as getting at least a temporary fire station. If one I was told about this morning comes
true, it will be in a short time.
Hopefully, this year we will have a fire station and a fire truck here.
Mr. Lambert asked are we talking about
running the whole thing here on Cay's Drive?
Mr. Dyer responded no, we have a 1.9-acre
parcel by itself. The 1.9-acre has
twenty ERC's and on the three-acre, there is only nine. What happened; I do not know. Anyhow those twenty ERC's, the assessed value
on that is close to $14,000, if not more.
That is the cure. You might want
to clarify Chief Wilson is involved with all this. He was at the meeting. The County would be paying for the temporary
fire station.
It is Ochopee that has to pay for
it. They do not have that big of a
budget. $30,000 would kill them. If you take $14,000 off, it would make it
more feasible. We may not even need an
assessment next year. We do not know
where we stand with all that is going on.
Hopefully we will have a fire station this year.
Mr.
Lambert asked on Orchid Cove's site plan, is it possible to get them to add the
wording on the fire station? Are they
lacking because of the park? Do you
know?
Mr.
Cox responded in their initial offer, they did not want to be responsible for
owning or permitting approvals for the fire station. That is our responsibility. They want us to get our site plan approved
and then we can come in for modifications.
Mr.
Mack stated that where the problem comes in.
It is almost impossible getting change after the site plan is
given. If at the time of the site plan,
they approve the whole thing, it will go a lot smoother. If they want their site plan approved, put on
their proposed fire station/community use.
Mr.
Lambert asked do you see any problems with the way the letter was sent?
Mr.
Cox responded I have not seen the letter, but if it is represented the way it
is, I do not see any problem.
Mr.
Lambert asked could you get copies out to the Board if you can?
Mr.
Goscicki stated the only thing I would suggest is if the Board has reviewed the
letter and supports this, they take an official action supporting that letter
and we can put together correspondence with the weight of the Board behind
that.
This
way, you have documentation on record from the committee, should they be
questioned in the future, whether the Board were in support or not or if this
were just a committee. It would be
appropriate for the Board to take action in support of that action, saying we
concur with the recommendation in that letter and we could put a letter to that
effect into the file.
Mr. Benson stated I
would like to discuss this piece of property.
What you have here is the 41, Union Road entrance. You can see from this photograph, they have
to build a berm along 41 and along your property as a requirement of Collier
County. In this area, they have excluded
the berm. It is possibly being provided
by Orchid Cove. It is approximately an
acre and a half, maybe slightly larger.
There are a couple of issues here.
One is there is some vegetation.
The question is can that vegetation be cleared or not.
That would be an issue
to be investigated. We also have another
issue because this lake is part of their stormwater management for Orchid
Cove. If we were to utilize this property
we may have to provide our own stormwater management. One other potential issue on this piece of
property would be F.D.O.T. allowing access from this piece of property onto
41. In this location, I am not sure they
would.
Mr. Cox stated they
would also have to allow us the median cut here, so the trucks could come out
and go left, rather than doing U-turn.
Mr. Benson stated they
usually do not like to permit those types of things that close to a road.
Mr. Lambert stated
basically, what Orchid Cove is saying they are going to give to us may not be
suitable.
Mr. Benson stated we do
not know.
Mr. Cox stated the other
option is the northern portion of the area.
They are designating this as preserve areas on their site plan. For a PUD you have to have a certain percentage
of your property that is left in open space.
If they designated any of that area we are talking about as open space,
as public use area, then they cannot count it as open space and they have to
eliminate some buildings.
We have the other deal
going on with the Northport Investments Property. I have spoke to all three of the people with
outstanding offers on this right now in regards to that property. They have indicated that they would e willing
to donate to the CID, the land that is east of Union Road, south of the
wastewater treatment plant, the sewage treatment plant, so we would have all
our facilities in one place.
It would have access
onto Union Road, then out to 41, where there is a median cut already. It is really more suitable. They have sufficient land out there to meet
the open space out there for that property.
It is essentially unusable to them because of the way it lies between
Union Road and the boundaries of their property.
We would be able to use
it much better and having all of our public use facilities in one area would be
more efficient for us as well. That is
one of the reasons why I have not pressed hard on Orchid Cove. I am trying to see what is going to happen
with this here, because everybody is on board for that in that regard.
Ms. Dillon stated in the
interim, we are working on a temporary fire station. Wherever it goes we will build a permanent
one.
Mr. Cox stated a
temporary use still have to meet the requirements a permanent use has to meet.
Ms. Dillon stated
according to Chief Wilson, this temporary use will be fine. They put a trailer up and some kind of tent
to cover the fire engines and you can be in business, but that is just a
temporary fire station while we are working with these other ideas. There may be some confusion.
Mr. Goscicki asked are
you talking about the temporary fire station location?
Ms. Dillon stated there
is another possibility coming up.
Mr. Goscicki asked so;
you are looking at alternate sites, not this parcel?
Mr. Stephens stated we
are talking about a temporary solution right now until we know what is going on
with the trailer park and all.
Mr. Cox stated
Franklin's property probably would be an easier property to permit. It would be a good piece of property for us
to have it on. It is already zoned
commercial. The hotel did a big
expansion and does not have enough ERC's.
What they were going to do at one time was storage or something like
that on that property, but it has never really materialized.
Mr. Stephens stated we
discussed that, but something happened.
Mr. Cox stated it does
not have any ERC's, so it would be cheaper and that is something I would
suggest. I think that having everything
up by the wastewater plant makes sense.
Mr. Lambert stated
typically, the Board meeting is not open for comments from the audience until
the end of the meeting, so the meeting does not go on and on. It is not that we do not recognize you. I suggest that people, who have concerns about
the fire station, get with Mr. Barnard, who is chairing this committee and funnel your information
through him.
Mr. Mulberg stated we
pay our building's insurance. There are
two neighboring buildings, one is increasing $1,400 per unit, and the second
one is increasing $1,600 per unit because of the lack of a fire station. I do not know whether this is just a glitch
with these two buildings or whether it represents a general trend for Sunset
Cay.
Mr. Lambert stated we
have all experienced that movement and the cost of fire insurance. It is not just one particular area or building.
Mr. Mack stated the
hotel is close to being sold within the next 15 days. They offered a piece of property over here at
no charge. We have a carport for that
and housing the firemen in the hotel. It
would save quite a bit on insurance alone and it would be worthwhile.
Mr. Lambert stated so;
you are going to keep your thumb on that?
Are we going to go ahead and have staff send the letter?
Ms. Dillon responded I
emailed it to everybody. I do not know
if there were any problems.
On MOTION by Ms. Dillon seconded by Mr. Ziko with all in favor staff was
authorized to have staff send the letter regarding the fire station as
discussed.
Mr. Lambert stated the
first open item is equipment inventory with Severn Trent. Are we on schedule?
Mr. Goscicki responded
we still are not done. We will be here
with staff in a week or two to start doing it with you.
Mr. Lambert stated is
there any information on the website update.
Mr. Goscicki stated our
IT manager says the CCR is on the website and the latest financials are on the
website and the minutes are being posted on the website once approved.
Mr. Lambert asked only
approved minutes are being posted?
Mr. Goscicki responded
only approved minutes are going on the website.
Mr. Lambert stated
Severn Trent and Mr. Stephens' employee job descriptions.
Mr. Goscicki responded I
forgot to bring them with me. We have
three different job descriptions. I will
send those out to the Board members, so you do not have to wait until the next
meeting.
Mr. Lambert asked so
those will come out in the mail?
Mr. Goscicki responded
yes.
Mr. Lambert stated Mr.
Stephens and Mr. Benson and the reuse water and irrigation system.
Mr. Benson stated we had
identified this as a project in the renewal and replacement fund. I identified $15,000, which does not buy the
whole project. We originally did not do
all the work because we did not have the money.
The cost of materials is $20,000 and the cost to have them installed by
a couple of contractors, an electrical and mechanical contractor, would be
another $20,000, for a total of $41,000.
I recommended that we
purchase the materials and have the contractors install them at the lower cost
and we would have more control on this type of project. Last month you gave Mr. Stephens and I
to go ahead and get some of this stuff.
I represented last month that it was about $15,000. When it was more, I decided I had better
present this to you before we just start buying $15,000 worth of materials.
Mr. Lambert asked so
some of the items on this list are some of the same items we talked about last
month?
Mr. Benson responded
yes, I just thought they were a little bit less expensive. $15,000 is what I thought the materials would
cost. It is about $20,000, plus the
installation.
Mr. Bissell sated that
includes the cement pads?
Mr. Benson responded
yes, that is the last item.
Mr. Lambert asked what
kind of time frame are we looking at if you receive approval today.
Mr. Benson responded
most of these items can be shipped to us within two weeks on the pump, the tank
and on the pipefittings, I believe they have those pretty much in stock and can
get them fairly quickly.
Ms. Dillon stated basically, we last thought that they were going to turn
it on.
Mr. Benson stated I tried to explain previously, when we had the grant,
we had a certain amount of money that we had budgeted for a financial
emergency. We had to spend money to get
the grant money. We had to have at least
a certain amount of the project done in order for them to give us the $75,000
we had already spent. We had the minimum
in stock and at that time I said they were still things we needed that were not
there.
My mistake was I thought we could squeak by for a little while with the
minimum equipment, but we cannot. I have
been out there with Mr. Stephens. We
have tried to tweak it to make something work that was not complete and we need
to complete the project.
Mr. Bissell MOVED to authorize staff to spend $31,000 to finish the
wastewater system and the motion was seconded by Ms. Dillon.
Mr. Lambert asked when
this system is all up and running, can you give us a brief description of how
much is going to be reuse water, how much is coming out the well and how is
this going to be sent into the system?
Is anybody on this side going to get any reuse water? Is it all going to go to one side?
Mr. Benson
responded. The project, when it is
totally complete, will be a mixture of reuse water and canal water most of the
time. Most of the time the canal water
does not have a high chloride content.
What we have is two pump stations that will provide water into the same
system. We have periods when we have
higher chlorides in the canal. At that
time to have to shut that system off, except for a fire.
We will have to supplement
the reuse system with well water, which is excess well water untreated. The water we would normally use for drinking
water purposes. During those periods, we
will have to let everyone know. The
Water Management District and the County both are always advertising to
conserve water. Everybody should have
enough, but they cannot waste it.
We will have that much
more awareness. Between Collier County
and the Water Management District, everybody should have rain sensors
installed. We need to have more of a
public awareness in the District of water conservation requirements. There are already laws in effect.
The second part is what
do we have right now. We do not have
what DEP is requiring us to install in our pump station, which is one of our projects
that we are in the process of designing.
We do not have that complete, we can only use the reuse system if we do
not mix the two waters. At that point,
for a temporary period of time, we can send water to one half of our system,
which would be from the reuse and we use the other water for the other.
We also have an option
that we could try to send that water to everybody and turn off the canal
system, but we would have to remember that is our fire protection. We would have to have a way to man that. In the event there was a fire, that would be
turned on. We would have to be very
careful about that.
On VOICE VOTE with all in favor the prior motion was passed unanimously.
Mr. Bissell asked when
are we shooting for completion on this?
Mr. Benson stated we had
better say July. Is the water quality
okay, right now or are we having issues with chlorides last month.
Mr. Ziko responded a
couple of days ago we must have had it because it was running backwards. In
relation to that, I have one question for Mr. Stephens. The last two Fridays in a row, as to what Mr.
Benson said about conserving water, this morning at 7:30, the water was on in
Cays Drive.
We are violating the law
time after time. What do we have to do
to conform to the law?
Mr. Stephens responded I
told him several times about water on Friday.
This morning there were a lot of residents that had their sprinklers
on. I would like to suggest that the next
water bill goes out with noticing to the Port residents that they are not to be
water on Fridays. It is County law for
one thing, but more importantly, it is a conservation issue.
Mr. Cox asked do we need
a different timer? Is it that they
cannot set it for specific days?
Mr. Stephens responded I
am not sure if they can do that with a timer or not. I have talked to them twice about it
already. He did not say anything about a
timer to do that.
Mr. Cox asked can we ask
him that?
Mr. Stephens responded I
will check with him.
Mr. Lambert stated the
next item is the fire station. We have
already discussed that as far as where we are going with that. I will leave that on there as an active item
until we get further along.
Mr. Cox stated it is in
the forefront of negotiations that are going forward with these
properties. It should be an open item.
Mr. Lambert stated next
is the entrance monuments. Severn Trent
has that.
Mr. Goscicki stated I
did not check before the meeting to see where we are with those price
quotes. I will follow up and advise the
Board.
Mr. Cox stated with this
lettering, apparently the shadows are still there. Collier County has said to really be in
compliance, we need to clean those and paint them. The owner of the property, his representative
sent me a note saying that her husband has a construction company and he can
send down one of his painters to do that for us. We would need to pay them. I do not know if Mr. Stephens has any paint
we could use.
Mr. Stephens responded
we do not have anything.
Mr. Cox stated I cannot
imagine that painting those two walls would take much. They would be coming from Naples. It is a Naples contractor. We could authorize them not to exceed $1,000. We need to do something. We are bordering on getting fined and we do
not want that to happen.
They have given us
everything we need to get those signs permitted and I would hate to sour the
relationship by him getting fined.
Mr. Lambert stated those
signs sit on his property and monument.
Do we have an easement?
Mr. Cox responded we do
not.
Mr. Bissell stated so we
should get an easement.
Mr. Cox stated we
certainly should. Collier County is not
really excited about us having an easement there. They agreed that an easement will be
sufficient, but want to approve the language before it is executed. I do not have a problem with that. We have legals for it and everything we
need. I need authorization to negotiate
the easement and get these painted before the guy gets fined.
Mr. Bissell asked will
the owners go along with an easement?
Mr. Cox responded yes, he
is fine with that.
Mr. Lambert stated maybe
a hundred yards east of the entrance; there are two small monuments. What is the status on those?
Mr. Cox responded those
are not permitted. My understanding is
the only thing we were interest in permitting was two entrance monuments to the
Cays and the two entrance monuments on this side here at the hotel. Everything else, was so far gone, we were
just going to knock them down and get them out of there.
Mr. Lambert asked so
part of the whole process for letting them present us was disposal and removal
of those two and then both entrances will be cleaned up?
Mr. Cox responded
yes. I need those two things. On the third thing, some permitting person
drove down and looked at the area to see what we would be doing with it. The last time I was in town, to show her what
we were planning on what we were doing, so she could become familiar with the
area.
She brought up the sign
at the entrance on this side. There is a
sign that says Port of the Islands Marina and Residencies. Under the code you can have entrance
monuments. You can have two signs. We can have the Cays. We can have the Port of the Islands Marina
and Residences, but we would have to get rid of the middle sign. I thought it was the hotel that permitted it,
but she said no. She does know that it
is permitted. Now that Mr. Robinson is
gone, I do not know who to coordinate that with.
Ms. Dillon responded
Julie St. John. She is the manager. I thought the hotel had problems there and
they had to take the sign down.
Mr. Cox stated yes, I
cannot remember all of the details on that.
They have not said a word about that one. That, I think, is permitted.
Mr. Bissell stated it is
not touching anything. It is standing
alone and it is permitted.
Ms. Dillon stated
refresh my memory. What were we doing
about the north side sign?
Mr. Cox responded we
took it down. We cannot do anything of a
commercial nature and stay within the ordinance we are working under that deals
with subdivision signs. It has to be
strictly related to the identification of the subdivision. I thought the final decision was to let the
developers of those areas deal with their own signs.
Mr. Lambert asked do we
want to give Mr. Cox permission to get started with the easements, so we do not
have a fine and to proceed with what he wants to do?
Ms. Dillon responded
this North Hotel signs troubles me, because I thought we were still talking
about putting a Port of the Islands sign there.
Mr. Cox stated we could
also include that in the scope of work and see what we are doing. We are going to run into the same situation
that you raised about this. We can only
have two monument signs. If Orchid Cove
puts up one and we put up something and there are other lands back there that
is going to be developed and they want to put up something, I think that is why
they pretty much backed off on the north side.
Ms. Dillon stated maybe
we could talk them into putting Orchid Cove and Port of the Islands on the
their sign.
Mr. Bissell asked those
two over there they are talking about taking down, are those on our property on
our easement?
Ms. Dillon asked on the
north side.
Mr. Cox responded not on
the north side.
Mr. Bissell asked then
it is up to them to take it down, right?
Mr. Benson responded on
the south side it is not totally on the right-of-way. That is the reason why we had to right the
legal descriptions, because existing signs are partly in the right-of-way and
partly on private property. That is why
they wrote the easement to describe that property. There is no need for those two on the east
side.
Mr. Cox stated I think
they have to come down in order for us to get in on the subdivision.
Mr. Lambert stated just
get them out of there and not stumble around with that. It is not a big deal to get them out of
there.
Mr. Bissell asked can we
do that on private property as a public entity?
Mr. Cox responded we can
discuss while I am getting the easements, keeping the temporary license
agreement to go in and demolish and remove those others.
Mr. Bissell sated we
have the equipment to take care of it ourselves. We have a backhoe to level it down and a
bucket to carry it.
Mr. Cox stated it is
just a matter of what to do with it.
Mr. Bissell stated we
would have to hire a dumpster. That is
cheaper than contracting it.
On MOTION by Mr. Ziko seconded by Ms. Dillon with all in favor Mr. Cox
was direction to proceed with negotiating the easements and with a contractor
for an amount not to exceed $1,000 to paint the signs.
Mr. Bissell stated the
painter that does these condos over here has a portable spray. Maybe if you talk to them, that could be cone
in a very short time.
Mr. Cox stated I will do
that.
Mr. Lambert stated the
next item is generators for the lift station and our want ads.
Mr. Benson stated there
are two price quotes. First, was the
portable generator for the lift stations.
Severn Trent is a member of the Royal Water Association, so we went to
them for a price quote of $30,800. We
also went to another vendor we do a lot of work with and received a price of
$30,600.
We are talking about a
relatively expensive generator. You are
also looking at additional costs. There
are junction boxes for a generator on each of the lift station control panels. There should be no additional cost for the
portable generator. They are relatively
expensive.
You are talking about a
diesel powered generator sufficient to handle the largest lift station here,
$60 KW. You would cycle them around to
pump upstream and downstream.
Mr. Lambert stated with
one of them single-phase and the other three-phase; will we have any problems?
Mr. Stephens responded
they are all three-phase.
Mr. Benson the
alternative we looked at, recognizing the cost was the price of a portable
pump, which could be used in lieu of a generator. You could be lying on a lift station and the
control panel to be there. If the
control panel gets blown down in a hurricane, an alternative is to look at a
portable diesel-powered pump.
We put together one
price quote for that and that was approximately $16,500 to provide that. We have two different alternatives. One is this portable pump. We would literally by-pass the pump station
and pump around it. We would probably
need to look at the fittings that are there and whether nor not there are any
bypass fittings.
Mr. Stephens responded
most of them, I do not think they have that.
It would have to be installed.
Mr. Cox stated that is a
one-time shot. Did they do reasonable
options, anything like that to pay for it every couple of years?
Mr. Stephens responded
on the generators? We did not explore
that.
Mr. Bissell asked will
this take care of our lift stations over here?
Mr. Benson yes, this
will take care of the lift stations.
Mr. Lambert asked so
$30,000 or $16,500 is the lift station?
Mr. Goscicki stated the
$16,500 will get you the pump and the hoses.
If you need to put in any special fittings, we have not gone in and
looked at each of the lift stations.
Mr. Benson stated I
think most of them have it.
Mr. Stephens stated I
think the RV lift station has that.
Mr. Lambert asked are we
going to even out the difference of rounds, when we are going on the filter
bypasses?