MINUTES OF MEETING

PINE TREE WATER CONTROL DISTRICT

 

            The regular meeting of the Board of Supervisors of the Pine Tree Water Control District was held on Thursday, June 1, 2006 at 5:00 p.m. at the Parkland City Hall Library, 6620 University Drive, Parkland, Florida.

 

            Present and constituting a quorum were:

 

            David Rosenof                                                  President

            Margaret Bertolami                                           Vice President

            Paul Brewer                                                     Secretary

            Donna Benckenstein                                         Assistant Secretary

            Mimi Bright Ribotsky                                        Assistant Secretary

 

            Also present were:

 

            John Petty                                                        Manager

            D.J. Doody                                                      Attorney

            Warren Craven                                                 Engineer

            John McKune                                                   CH2M Hill

            Jean M. Rugg                                                   Severn Trent Services

            Janice Larned                                                   Severn Trent Services

            Darryl Kisson                                                   Severn Trent Services

            John Hart                                                         Wrathell, Hart, Hunt & Associates

            Madonna Dellolio                                             Wrathell, Hart, Hunt & Associates

            Michael Szymonowicz                                      Wrathell, Hart, Hunt & Associates

            Irving Rosenbaum                                             New Community Strategies

            Robert T. Mearns                                             New Community Strategies

            Dennis Baldis                                                    Governmental Management Services

            Richard Hans                                                    Governmental Management Services

            Luis Hernandez                                                 Governmental Management Services

            Neil Kalin                                                         Special District Services

                                                                                   

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS                               Roll Call

            Mr. Rosenof Called the meeting to order and Mr. Petty called the roll.

 

SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS                          Approval of the Minutes of the May 4, 2006 Meeting

            Mr. Rosenof stated each Board member received a copy of the minutes of the May 4, 2006 Meeting and requested any corrections, additions or deletions.

            Ms. Ribotsky stated my name is spelled wrong on the first line of page six.  In the last paragraph of page 24, “Turnbridge” is spelled “Ternbridge” and “Woodier Oaks” should be “Whittier Oaks”.

 

On MOTION by Ms. Ribotsky seconded by Ms. Bertolami with all in favor the minutes of the May 4, 2006 meeting were approved as amended.

 

THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS                             Questions and Comments on Proposed Budget

            Mr. Petty stated at the last meeting we gave you a proposed budget for discussion and dissemination purposes.  It is standard policy for us to put it on the next agenda to discuss if any Board members wish to make changes or get further information on a line item.

            Mr. Rosenof asked does anyone have any questions or comments about the budget?  When we talk about the actual through a certain amount that includes items of which we have cost recovery, I do not want to overstate our budget if we have been reimbursed for some of the costs.

            Mr. Petty stated no sir.  It would have shown up as a revenue source in the budget.

            Mr. Rosenof stated the total projected for the attorney fee is $10,000.  If $5,000 of it was cost recovery, would it show under other revenue?

            Mr. Petty responded no sir.  If it was under cost recovery, it would not be part of this budget.  It would be part of the authorization for the attorney to enter into such agreements during the year.

            Mr. Rosenof asked did the actual through March 31, 2006 not include any items by which we could receive cost recovery?

            Mr. Petty responded not from the explanation you gave.

            Mr. Rosenof asked are you looking for a motion?

            Mr. Petty responded no sir.  It is for discussion purposes only.

           

FOURTH ORDER OF BUSINESS                          Attorney’s Report – Status on Title Work

            Mr. Doody stated the issue has been resolved to great degree.  Mr. Craven provided me direction with respect to the title work.  It appears the only entity we will need to deal with regarding the canal is Broward County.  Even though my title report shows five different entities, Mr. Craven has gone through there with his engineer eye and identified those interests do not impact the canal in question.  I will be working with Broward County who I am confident will be cooperative and we will make progress quickly.  I can now give a legal and proposed quitclaim deed and go through the process saying this is what we want.  We are going to have a depiction to show them.  I am comfortable we can isolate the area to show them it is not something they have interest in.

            Ms. Ribotsky asked did we find any other potential areas?

            Mr. Craven responded no.

            Ms. Ribotsky asked do you think this is our only property?

            Mr. Craven responded no.  I did not look.

            Mr. Doody stated we isolated this canal to Broward County.

            Mr. Craven stated there are only two major areas of concern as it affects the drainage.  It is the canal on the north side of the Sawgrass Expressway and the canal we are currently addressing.  If they were filled in or closed up, we would have a problem draining everything.  We have other areas where there are questionable right-of-ways and easements, but they are limited to local areas which do not have a major impact on the District.

            Ms. Ribotsky asked will we never end up in an NRCS title issue where we will miss out on potential funding for clearing them?

            Mr. Craven responded this will be a policy decision upon the part of the Board.  We have a number of areas where we have flowage rights coming through where by we drain water to another subdivision and ultimately to our outfall.  Those lakes, water bodies or whatever you want to call them, are owned by the HOAs.  I am not addressing those situations.  You need to look at this.

            Ms. Ribotsky stated if another storm happens and we have to apply for things, the first thing we will do is a title search.  If we did a title search and it shows joint ownership, do we know if we can do a joint application?  Rather than go through the quitclaim deed process, will it be okay to do an application in conjunction with Broward County and submit it for funding?  I want to make sure when we go into the next storm, we do not lose out on the funding we lost out on this time.

            Mr. Petty stated the intent is to work on major drainage canals, which Mr. Craven has talked about.  There are secondary issues we are not addressing at the moment.  We are going after the principal issues, the issues we are most concerned with, which were raised during the NRCS application process problems we discussed at the last meeting.  You will be continuing to look at proper title and ownership, not only for NRCS, but for any practical application of government funds and maintenance thereof. 

            This is something we needed to do all along.  We are on the right track.  We have a good start.  I do not know if we covered every possible nuance of a hurricane hitting next year, but if we can get ownership for the primary corridors, we are covering the vast majority of costs involved with a hurricane event. 

            Mr. Craven stated it was discussed in the December meeting and you gave me direction to look at all of the right-of-ways.  I am willing to do this, but they are not pressing at the moment.  We have a different fire to put out.  It does not take long to determine where we have problems.  The resolution to the problems may take little time.

            Mr. Rosenof stated you attack the easiest ones first to get them out of the way.

            Mr. Craven stated after we get past this initial phase.

            Mr. Doody stated to address Ms. Ribotsky’s concern, it is a valid point.  Historically, the ownership or title to the canals has never been an issue of concern.  No one ever exercised any control or maintenance other than the District.  The issue arose when I had to certify to it on a legal basis.  We are turning it up a notch for lack of a better term.  It was never done with formality.  We are formalizing what was done.  We have gone a long way towards formalizing the main system.  It is a correction of historic practices we are trying to address.

            Mr. Petty asked can you give me a time estimate of the process?

            Mr. Doody responded 60 to 90 days.  I will be working with the Deputy County Attorney next week.  I have a professional relationship with her.  I anticipate there will be a level of cooperation, but I believe the county commission is off for July.  They are in recess; therefore we anticipate getting on the agenda for August or September.

            Mr. Petty stated the reason I asked such a question is because Mr. McKune from CH2M Hill, who has been doing a great deal of work for the hurricane clean up, has developed a good relationship with NRCS.  He was able to get NRCS to put us on the list of approved projects if we can get the contract signed.

            Mr. Doody stated call me next week after I speak to Ms. Azcoitia and I will give you an accurate representation.

            Mr. Petty stated I do not want to get the Board’s hopes up because I believe it is a small window.  We thought the window was closed.  They opened it after Mr. McKune basically stayed out on their porch for a night.  It is a possibility if we can get title in the window they will allow.  NRCS is not going to give us a big window.  If we can sign it within a time frame, we might be able to get some money back.

            Ms. Ribotsky asked are you saying it needs a county commission vote?

            Mr. Doody responded I believe so.

            Ms. Ribotsky stated I imagine the way they will do it is by passing a resolution supporting the deed.  Given the amount of funding we can get, can we request they pass the resolution contingent upon something?  We have done it before in the city commission. 

            Mr. Doody stated I will try.

            Ms. Ribotsky stated when there is a time pending and we tell them the amount of dollars at risk, we can ask them to pass the resolution saying they will authorize the deed contingent upon whatever.  This way we can capture it during June.

            Mr. Doody stated I will call tomorrow.

            Mr. Petty asked since you are asking for a political resolution from the county, is it preferable to contact the City of Parkland and the City of Coral Springs to support it?

            Ms. Ribotsky responded yes.  We can pass an independent resolution to this affect.

            Mr. Doody stated let me work with you in this regard and you can reach out at that point once I ask the question downtown. 

            Ms. Ribotsky stated the City of Parkland may only have one meeting in the first week of June.

            Mr. Doody stated it is a statutory process.  It is not political so I am not sure if it will have any bearing on it.  I will make the inquiry. 

           

FIFTH ORDER OF BUSINESS                               Engineer’s Report

            There being no report, the next item followed.

 

SIXTH ORDER OF BUSINESS                              Consideration of Award of Contract for Canal Clean Up

            Mr. Petty stated we asked our engineers to put this out to bid so if you wished to consider this construction project and clean up at tonight’s meeting you would have the pertinent information.  Mr. McKune has put it out to bid.  We have a summary of the bid.  The bid is being contested.  At this time I will turn it over to Mr. McKune to explain who the apparent low bidder is, the amount and talk about his conversations with the contractor who submitted the concern with the bid process.

            I will give you my opinion on it and I will defer to counsel.  We have not adopted formal rules for this process, which leaves it up to staff to do the review of anyone’s complaint on a bid process.  We asked the engineer who prepared the bid specifications to look at the claim, talk to the person who filed it, see if there is any merit to it and report at tonight’s meeting.

            Mr. Rosenof stated it is a big spread.

            Ms. Ribotsky stated we had one of these on the city commission.  The reason for the big spread we had was interesting.  We had six bids come in.  They were all between $1.2 Million and $1.5 Million.  One came in at $800,000.  It turned out the reason was because the applicant owned a landfill near where the work was being done.  There may be a reason for this being lower.

            Mr. Petty stated Mr. McKune is familiar with most of the contractors capable of doing this work.  He has two contracts currently in the $6 Million range of this type of work in the City of Coral Springs he is overseeing. 

            Mr. Craven asked who is filing the complaint?

            Mr. McKune responded Arbor Tree and Land Company.  Whether or not they have a basis will be up to Mr. Doody and Arbor Tree and Land Company’s attorney.

            Ms. Ribotsky asked what is their basis for the complaint?

            Mr. McKune responded they are saying the low bidder did not strictly and literally adhere to the requirements and specifications.  They list things such as not having a copy of the general contractor’s license in the bid package.  They have a general contractor.  They have a license.  It was not in the package.  We are getting to the point where if you want to do a strict, literal, interpretation you will have one answer, which will be his attorney’s answer.  In my opinion, it is an informality.

            Ms. Ribotsky stated when you say one thing, like a general contractor’s license, I would look at it aside.  If there were six “one things” I would say they have a substantial complaint.  How many are there and what are they?

            Mr. Petty responded what we asked the engineer to review and opine on tonight is if this is a material or non material deviation submitted by the low bidder.  We can talk around it all we want about the quantity and etcetera, but we need to ask the engineer if it is material or non material.

            Mr. McKune stated in my opinion, everything in his complaint is non material.  There is one item, which is questionable to the Board.  Did the main items require the work be able to be done from the waterways because of the locations and the rights-of way?  They have done waterway work.  They have not done it to this great of an extent from a barge with big equipment on the barge. 

            Ms. Ribotsky stated I view it as material.

            Mr. McKune stated I understand, but they have worked from the water and they are prepared to plead their case with their experience.

            Mr. Rosenof asked is there a requirement for a payment and performance bond?

            Mr. McKune responded yes.

            Mr. Rosenof stated then I do not care if they have experience or not. 

            Ms. Ribotsky asked do you have a copy of this complaint?

            Mr. McKune responded yes.

            Ms. Ribotsky asked does it list the reasons on it?

            Mr. McKune responded yes.

            Mr. Rosenof stated if the surety is willing to post a bond so they can do what they say they are going to do, we are being subjective to say they cannot.

            Mr. Petty stated I agree.  This is why we asked for the performance criteria and this is why the engineer’s first reaction is to say these are non material deviations.  We need to ask counsel if he sees any exposure for this Board since we do not have adopted rules for handling this type of complaint.  It falls to general practices. 

            Mr. Rosenof stated I am looking at the spreadsheet.  Somebody wants six months and somebody wants two months.  Is there a reason why he is taking so long to do it?

            Mr. McKune responded it is the total amount of time, which will be allowed by NRCS.  He thinks he can get the job done within 90 days.

            Mr. Rosenof asked are there liquidated damages or anything you know of?

            Mr. McKune responded yes.

            Mr. Rosenof asked what are the liquidated damages?

            Mr. McKune responded I believe this one is $1,000 per day.

            Mr. Petty stated they are considerable.  This specification mirrors SWCD, which is a $3 Million plus contract currently ongoing and the CSID contract, which is $1.8 Million and is 90% complete.  These specifications were done under pressure after the hurricane in cooperation with NRCS and FEMA by Mr. McKune.  They are considered to be the best specifications out there for this type of work.

            Mr. Craven asked did the low bidder bid on any other projects?

            Mr. McKune responded yes.  He was the low bidder on another job in Coral Springs. 

            Mr. Doody responded this is the first I heard of this.  I have not seen any documents.  I am not aware of any complaints.  I can tell you the Florida Case Law recognizes a major versus a minor deviation.  With all due respect to the Board I am not prepared to give you any direction on this.

            Mr. Petty stated this matter happened yesterday and we were not able to bring it to his attention.  We were able to bring the conclusion of the discussions with the contractor from today’s conversation.

            Mr. Rosenof asked how long are the bids good for?

            Mr. McKune responded 90 days.

            Mr. Rosenof stated I would like counsel to review the complaint.  I would hate to wait another month, but I do not want to put the Board and homeowners in jeopardy should any of these complaints turn out to be material.  It is prudent to ask for counsel’s review and to bring it up at next month’s meeting.  Does anyone have any questions or comments?

            Ms. Ribotsky responded I request we get a copy of the complaint.

            Ms. Bertolami asked is there any other procedure such as a telephone conference call, which will bring us closer to two weeks rather than a month?

            Mr. Petty responded we can call a special meeting.

            Ms. Ribotsky stated I would rather have that.

            Mr. Rosenof asked how long will it take you to review this?

            Mr. Doody responded if I can get it tomorrow and review it over the weekend, I will be prepared to go next week.

            Mr. Rosenof stated with my experience in these matters, his complaint will probably have technical issues with it as well.

            Mr. Doody stated he is arguing the low bidder did not comply with the terms of the bid.  I have to determine if it is a major or minor deviation on part of the District.  I am not coming to a predetermined opinion at this point.

            Mr. Rosenof asked let us see if we can ask the manager to convene a special meeting as soon as possible after Mr. Doody’s review.  Do you need a motion to table it?

            Mr. Doody responded yes sir.

 

On MOTION by Ms. Bertolami seconded by Ms. Benckenstein with all in favor consideration of award of contract for canal clean up was tabled until Mr. Doody can present the Board with direction on the complaint made by Arbor Tree & Land, Inc. at a special meeting.

 

            Mr. Rosenof stated this item was tabled.  Do we need to do it to a certain date?

            Mr. Petty responded no sir.  We are not continuing the meeting.  You asked for a special meeting.

            The record will reflect Mr. Brewer joined the meeting.

 

EIGHTH ORDER OF BUSINESS                           Supervisor’s Requests

            There not being any, the next item followed.

 

NINTH ORDER OF BUSINESS                             Audience Comments

            There not being any, the next item followed.

 

TENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS                             Approval of Financials and Invoices

            Mr. Rosenof asked are there any questions or comments on the invoices?

            There not being any,

 

On MOTION by Ms. Benckenstein seconded by Ms. Bertolami with all in favor the financials and invoices were approved.

 

SEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS                        Presentations of Proposals for Management Services

            Mr. Doody asked are there any questions I can go over before you recess?

            Mr. Rosenof responded let us talk about procedural issues.  Remind us again on the timing.  How long do they have to do the presentations?

            Mr. Doody responded they can have a presentation of up to 20 minutes.  They then have 10 minutes for questions or comments.  You allocated 30 minutes for each presenter.

            Mr. Rosenof asked how many presenters do we have this evening?

            Mr. Doody responded we have five.  Other than this, I have no comments.  One entity contacted me to confirm.  I believe they are at 8:00 p.m.  I know your 6:00 p.m. schedule is here.  I sent them a letter telling them they could attend the meeting if they wanted.  If they are so inclined, they can attend the other presentations.  I respectfully request you do not ask them to leave, but you may ask them to give professional courtesy to the other presenters.  It is opened to anyone.  You do not have to take any action.  You are entertaining these presentations.  I will describe the meeting as a workshop, meaning you do not anticipate any action being taken.  They are just here for informational purposes.

            Mr. Rosenof asked if we take notes, are they public record?

            Mr. Doody responded yes.

            Mr. Petty stated this is off the subject, but there are extra people in the audience.

            Mr. Rosenof stated I did notice.

            Mr. Petty stated this is Ms. Larned, our Treasury Director for Severn Trent.  Behind her is Mr. Kisson, a financial advisor.  I brought them here in the case you did award contract, we arranged for a financing instrument to fund such a construction project.  Unless you want to talk to them tonight, I will bring them to the next meeting.  The secretary will stay for the record to take notes.  My intention is to leave during the other presentations.

 

On MOTION by Mr. Rosenof seconded by Ms. Bertolami with all in favor the meeting recessed at 5:40 p.m. to reconvene at 6:00 p.m.

 

            The recessed meeting reconvened at 6:00 p.m.

            The first presentation is from Wrathell, Hart, Hunt and Associates.

            Mr. Hart stated we became who we are in January of 2005 because we recognized the dynamics in the industry had a great deal of upheaval taking place with such consistency of performance in so many years, but some things changed.  We also recognized the existing number of Districts within the State of Florida were up to 275 and were going to multiply by a factor of at least doubling if not tripling over the next five to ten years.  We assessed whether or not there was room for an entry into the marketplace if in fact we had the kind of personnel, skill sets and commitment to be able to do the job. 

            The second thing we analyzed for over a six month period of time was the model of service delivery, which had been existing for a long time.  We found one of the things being brought up most of the time was dissatisfaction of service and not feeling completely serviced.  When someone was hiring the outside manager, there was a need for there to be confidence, personal relationship and the feeling you were getting the first and foremost attention.  You did not always have to wait until there was a crisis before you heard from them.  We found we needed to be a company dedicated to being proactive and more suggestive in how you should be managing the District or to improve the management of the District.

            We found this is the best definition of a true service oriented business and therefore, we needed to understand what kind of people we wanted to bring together who were going to be interacting with people like you.  I want to go to Mr. Wrathell because he was with Severn Trent for six or seven years.  He was tutored by the gentleman who was the father of this industry, Mr. Moyer.  He grew up through the process and has a tremendous background in the industry.  He has managed over 50 Districts in the State of Florida.  He was the City Manager of the City of Marathon.  He graduated from the University of Miami.  He left Severn Trent and was with Special District Services for a good period of time.  He then found there was an opportunity to get with Mr. Hunt and myself to create our company.  I want to talk to you about why we put this whole thing together more so than what I did before.

            My background is varied.  I had 25 years with Meryl Lynch.  I ran two major engineering firms.  I ran Keith & Schnars for approximately five and a half years as operating partner.  I have approximately 20 years worth of concurred public service, as a municipal elected official, a mayor for three terms and serving in the county commission for a couple of terms.  More importantly than all of this blended together, it provided me with an understanding as to when it came to districts, each district has its own interests; whether it is making sure the canals are properly cleaned up and more importantly making sure there are reserve funds set up so you do not find yourself in an assessment crisis.  By bringing Mr. Wrathell together with me we found we had a few people with both experiential backgrounds as far as CDD management was concerned and someone like me with a financial background as well as an engineering background mixed with public service. 

            As a third leg of this partnership, with a background in his own investment banking business, Mr. Hunt has been the president and owner of a company called Gardner Michael.  It was one of the few consistent surviving investment banking firms and is headquartered in the State of Florida.  Not only did Mr. Hunt come to us with $15 Billion worth of municipal underwriting, but his financial background is extraordinary.  We felt we could bring his mix to the table, bring my skill sets to the table and then have the company managed by someone with real life experience and a reputation of great professionalism.  We thought we could bring to the community’s interest a company, which could serve its means and do it well.

            I want to close by saying we have dedicated ourselves as a company to client service as our first provision of importance.  We will never say anything against anyone else because there are very good providers of service in this business.  We want to make sure you know if we provide somebody we say is going to be here to do the job, they will be here to do the job.  If we tell you we are going to give financial accounting and other information on time, it will get there on time and it will be correct.  We went from zero districts in January 2005 to 24 districts now throughout the State of Florida and 14 more in formation.  We have offices in Delray Beach, Fort Myers, Jacksonville and in Seacrest.  Our headquarters in Delray Beach is moving to Coconut Creek within the next couple of months.  We feel comfortable we can do the job, but we want to make sure you understand our commitment to personal service and our commitment to being there for you before you have to get on the phone and start screaming for us. 

            I would like to introduce to you Mr. Szymonowicz and Ms. Dellolio.  Mr. Szymonowicz will bring you through some of the specifics of the presentation and then we will open it up to questions and answers.

            Mr. Szymonowicz stated good evening.  I am the director of financial services for Wrathell, Hart, Hunt and Associates.  My official background is in economics.  I have a Masters Degree from Florida Atlantic University in International Economics.  Like many of my colleagues, I was previously employed by Severn Trent Services and previous to that by Gary Moyer, PA.  My expertise is in the areas of special assessments, budgeting, including municipal budgeting and finance.  I have been the budget director for the City of Weston for the last four years.  I have generated and supervised a budget of roughly $100 Million annually.  I participated in issuances of close to a half billion dollars in government bonds, including producing, writing and supervising special assessment methodology reports and special assessment rolls.

            Ms. Dellolio stated I am a graduate of the University of Miami.  I handle the accounting and financing side of everything.  I handle the financials, budgets, I oversee the audits and I work with the auditor.  I file all of the state reports and work with the field guys.  I do the pay roll and things like it.  I have been working with CDDs for seven to eight years.  I started out on the banking side.  I worked with Wachovia for five years administrating government funds, trust funds and investments.  It was an easy transition to the accounting side.

            Mr. Szymonowicz stated if we are so fortunate to be chosen, the two of us will be the people you will be dealing with on a daily basis with regards to the financial side of the District’s operations.  As required by the stipulations of the RFP, I was involved with the initial meeting with your District Engineer and walked some of the fields as well as canals of the District to familiarize myself and get a grip on the reality of the District. 

            In talking with the District Engineer and upon doing some research, I found this District has been in business for over 40 years.  It was originally created in 1961 to provide drainage for some residential portions as they existed at the time.  The District has since expanded as the agricultural portion of this area has decreased in size and it essentially provides drainage to the eastern portion of the City of Parkland and northeastern portion of the City of Coral Springs. 

            The District encompasses approximately 2,200 acres and it is currently governed by Florida Statute Chapter 2001-320, which mandates representatives of the two municipalities be present on the Board.  The primary services provided by the District are water control, aquatic weed control, ground water recharge canal rights-of-way, swale mowing, cleaning of canals and culvert inspection services.  The District utilizes two of its own employees to provide these services and shares a field supervisor as well as other resources with CSID. 

            The water control system is gravity based and consists of a major canal, which takes water from south to north into the Hillsboro Canal, culverts and mechanical gates.  The system conveys water along two main accesses from the south to the north and it includes approximately 22 major culverts and other structures.  During periods of high canal and groundwater levels, the system discharges excess water into the Hillsboro Canal and alternatively during periods of low water level there is a groundwater recharge system taking the water from the Cocomar Water Control District, which is pumped from the ground under pressure and then there is a gravity system conveying the water into this District.

            The primary maintenance responsibility is canal maintenance.  This includes aquatic weed control as well as right-of-way cleaning and mowing.  The majority of these services are provided by District staff and supervised by the field supervisor.  There is periodic mowing of swales in the back of the homes in the Pine Tree Estate area of the District.  Regarding this particular part of the service, I know the District had some problems as some of the residents have not lived up to their responsibilities.  They either destroyed the swales or not maintained them to the standards the District wanted them to.  Although these areas are not directly the responsibility of the District, there is a chance to work with the municipalities to try to use some of the municipal powers, specifically code enforcement, to make sure the swales are maintained by the rightful owners.  To provide these services the District primarily relies on its two employees.  For some other services such as inspection of culverts and some of the underwater sections of the system, it uses third party vendors. 

            The management model we are proposing, should we be accepted, is to provide financial services through me.  The treasury and assessment roll services will be provided by Ms. Dellolio and two other staff members.  Administrative services will be provided by two staff members under the direction of Mr. Wrathell as the District Manager, in cooperation with the existing District staff supervised by the field supervisor, which is shared with CSID.  We believe the sharing of resources is a prudent approach, which the District has wisely chosen.  We will recommend the sharing of resources be continued.  We feel there is considerable knowledge in the two personnel and in the supervisors, who know the daily operations of the District, to know how to best structure and guide the system to its intended use.  We will work effortlessly with them to make sure their needs are supported without being overbearing in trying to change the direction of the District too quickly.

            The particular services we recommend in the management section will be to attend all the meetings of the Board of Supervisors and to provide dialogue with the Board on all issues relating to the District.  We will identify policies and analyze their administrative as well as financial impact on the District.  We will prepare the annual budget and implement it throughout the year.  We will prepare District contracts as required in cooperation with the District Attorney.  We will ensure compliance of statutes and to record all meetings.  We will coordinate contract administration for the third party vendors.

            On the financial side we will provide this service in house.  We will assist the District Manager in preparing the budget.  We will record financial transactions.  We will make sure the invoices are paid on time.  We will prepare assessment rolls, which at this time are on a per acre basis.  We will ensure District funds are properly invested in accordance with District investment guidelines.  We will coordinate with the independent auditors.

            Mr. Rosenof stated I do not want to cut you off, but we want to leave some time for questions and answers.  Can we wrap this up?

            Mr. Szymonowicz responded this is the last slide.

            Mr. Rosenof stated I know you started late, but I do not want to get too off track.

            Mr. Szymonowicz stated absolutely.  There will be some administrative duties, which will consist of preparation of meeting agendas, advertising notices, transcribing minutes, serving as a steward of public records and any other general administrative services as required.  If I may, I would like to briefly tell you what we feel are the greatest challenges to the District.  It is not so much in the administrative set up of the District, but it is in dealing with the aftermath of the storm.  We feel an important part of your roles as Supervisors is looking into the needs of the District.  We will recommend you devote sufficient financial resources for clean up of damages and you devote financial resources for mitigation for future damages, which is something the current District Manager is recommending.

            Ms. Ribotsky stated you are obviously a newcomer to the field.  Explain what you learned over the last year with your 24 transitions, what you failed at and how you think you can do things better.

            Mr. Hart stated the first 11 Districts we acquired transitioned over from an existing provider.  The breakage we had was in the first 60 to 90 days.  We wanted to make sure all of the records were transitioned over.  Our first bumps were because nine transitioned all at once in the first 60 to 90 days.  Of the 24 districts we have, 17 of those have transitioned from an existing provider and seven were new districts.  As I said in my opening remarks, we have 14 more in formation.  We learned in the first three to four months on how to do this right.  We created a system, which is simple.  We work co-operatively with whatever districts are transitioning to us to make sure all of the records are there and we make an assessment to make sure we have everything we need. 

            Mr. Rosenof asked are your offices moving to Coconut Creek?

            Mr. Hart responded that is correct.

            Mr. Rosenof asked do you see a need for having the offices for this District within Coconut Creek or do you need office space elsewhere?

            Mr. Hart responded they will be in Coconut Creek.  We will be locating our office within five minutes of the central part of this District.

            Mr. Rosenof asked what resources can we share with your other districts similar to how we do with CSID?

            Mr. Szymonowicz responded I know you share some hardware and you share Mr. Frederick with CSID.  Most of our other clients are located on the west coast of Florida.  It will be difficult for personnel to commute.  We have a gentleman on the west coast of Florida who has been in the business of district operations from water management to landscaping, security, park and recreation and other things as they became acquired by these communities.  He will be available to counsel.  It is something we did not specifically mention because we did not want to give you the impression he will be definitely available on a large scale basis; however, we do have this person available should our primary manager have a question.  He has been dealing with issues from a microscopic point dealing with contractors and supervising them.  He has a great deal of knowledge. 

            As we mentioned, we feel the sharing of resources with CSID is a prudent approach.  We have similar arrangements in many of our districts in the west coast.  We have shared employees.  We have shared contractors.  We have shared facilities.  We know how to structure interlocal agreements in a way for both districts to utilize resources in a way they will not over bill their resources.  They are not building towards the maximum point, but they are anticipating what will be the most likely level of services utilized and acquire services in a way so they can provide services at a reasonable cost to the residents. 

            Ms. Ribotsky stated I am looking at your list of references and it is interesting that you are moving from Delray Beach in Palm Beach County to Broward County, yet none of your clients are in Palm Beach County or Broward County.  They all seem to be based outside of South Florida and in the west coast.  Can you elaborate on this?  Are you currently bidding on work here?  Do you intend to grow here?

            Mr. Hart responded we have grown out of our headquarters’ legitimate use of size.  We need to find more space.  We have a field operation in Fort Myers.  The gentleman Mr. Szymonowicz was just referring to is Mr. Adams and he has 17 years experience in this business all the way up to managing districts.  We decided we want our headquarters based in Broward County and it is a conscious management decision.  It does not mean we will not be significantly managing our business in the panhandle.  We have a couple more districts in formation in St. Joe County.  We have the same situation going on in Jacksonville.  We had to make a decision of where we could pull more resources together to have a more effective headquarter.  We felt Broward County was home for us and that is how we made the decision. 

            Mr. Rosenof stated if there are no other questions, we thank you very much. 

            The second presentation is from New Community Strategies.

            Mr. Rosenof stated before we start, let us do a quick introduction so you know who is here. 

            The Board and Ms. Rugg introduced themselves.

            Mr. Rosenbaum stated we met with Mr. Craven so we are familiar with your District.  We do quite a few districts.  With me is Mr. Mearns.  He is with our company and was the city manager for his county.  We worked together for approximately 19 years.  The third member of our team was unable to be here.  He had a family emergency.  His name is Mr. Wallace.  He is our finance person.  He is the Finance Director in Davie and he has also worked with us for many years.  Mr. Wallace operates the company on a daily basis in addition to doing many other things.  He is our finance person and his specialties in the company are like this. 

            As you can tell we know everyone else in the business as they come in because we all cross paths along the way.  It is nice to see this much interest.  I will talk to you about my company and how it is different.  We all take different approaches and each district is different.  Mr. Mearns manages a district, which not only does water control, but does recreation and a host of other things.  He manages the Indian Trail District in the West Palm Beach area, more popularly known as the Acreage area.  Each district is different and all of our clients are different.  Mr. Mearns will elaborate on water control and drainage functions.

            I will start out by telling you about our company.  We have been in business for approximately 10 years.  We manage other similar districts, including the Belmont Lakes CDD and the Coral Bay CDD.  We do financial analysis and management for the finance departments of the City of Bal Harbour, Miami Gardens and West Park.  We have a contract finance department.  We provide financial support for the City of Lauderdale Lakes and their finance department.  We have a number of other activities.  We run the redevelopment agency in Margate.  You will see Margate change a great deal within the next year because redevelopment is going to happen.  It is one of our major projects. 

            We have 12 full-time employees and 6 part-time employees.  We are adding people as functions expand.  We also manage a couple of HOAs.  It is not our core business.  We do planning work.  We have a full-time grant writer on staff.  If this arrangement goes forward, the grant writing services will be available to the District.  We have gotten a few grants related in the water management area.  We have gotten beautification grants in the districts we manage in Broward County.  The grant writing services are part of our overall services. 

            We also do municipal planning work and support work for the City of Margate and nine other cities including Dania and Coconut Creek.  In Coconut Creek we are looking at what type of development district they are going to use for their new entity.  They want to create a municipal center.  Every city in the world is creating a municipal center.  We are identifying the type of special district, which should be used in the City of Coconut Creek. 

            Our staff has been around Broward County for a long time.  We know the turf well.  We know the politics well, but most of all there is our expertise in special districts and our expertise in communities having certain values as well as character.  Each district is important and has a degree of identity or mission they would like to preserve.  Having spent many years in Davie, we worked together in Davie for 14 years as a unit.  We did the open space program.  We did a great deal of buildings in Davie’s infrastructure.  We did a great deal to preserve Davie’s character.  Some of it is disappearing today, but 15 years ago we did the $10 Million open space bond issue.  A great deal of what you see is a result of our planning and our efforts.  We are proud of it.  We move the districts’ missions along.  We realize every district has different priorities and we adjust our management plan to deal with the district’s priority. 

            When I left city management 12 years ago, after 25 years in it, I became a college professor.  A college professor’s compensation is not good.  I started this company and we started special districts.  We did Belmont Lakes CDD in Davie.  We did a great deal of work in Arvida and with the Weston community.  We did a great deal of work, which helped Weston come along with its identity as a contract city.  Mr. Mearns and I took the officials from the taxing district as well as the Arvida people to a city in Volusia County called DeBary.  They got the idea to do a contract city, which is what you see in Weston today.  The operation Mr. Flint runs is something we created in the 1990’s with the concept of a contract city.

             As we went along, we added entities.  Mr. Wallace joined us approximately four years ago when he retired from Davie.  We started to do a great deal of financial work and provide financial services to cities.  We started it out with some bond issues as well as water and sewer issues.  We provided a level of service the city could not get on its own.  If you look at the City of West Park, they cannot afford to have their own financing department.  The City of Miami Gardens is a success story after two and a half years of working there.  There are approximately 110,000 people in the City of Miami Gardens.  It is not a small city, but it is a new city.  Starting up a new city is a challenging financial enterprise.  Not only from the point of view of the availability of revenue, but trying to build a financial process.

            We added the Margate redevelopment and earlier this year we added the Indian Trail Improvement District, which is a Chapter 298 improvement district.  We have an office in Davie.  As of Monday we will have a larger office.  We finally contracted to take on more space.  We will be moving into larger quarters and expanding.  We are looking ahead to do additional work in special districts in other areas. 

            Mr. Mearns stated I am the District Manager and Treasurer of the Indian Trails Improvement District in Palm Beach County.  It is 110 square miles.  There are 185 miles of canals, 390 miles of roads, nine parks, five Supervisors, one district manager and approximately 65 employees.  The District began as a water control district in 1957.  It existed that way through 1995, when they got into the road maintenance business.  Two years after getting into the road maintenance business, they decided they wanted to be in the park business.  We have all of these roads to maintain, 90% of which are stabilized roads, plus the canals and nine parks. 

            The employee base has grown from 15 in 1995 to 65 today and they want to add more because the demand is great.  The population sky rocketed.  There are 17,100 acres.  Out of the 17,100 assessable acres, there are approximately 13,000 homes and they are down to 1,500 lots left.  You can see the growth is astronomical.  With the growth there, we are having a continuing clashing of cultural styles.  Dealing with this growth issue is one part of it, but more importantly I try to focus on what our true mission is.  What are we in business to do?  Water goes up and water goes down.  It is pretty much running an operative canal system.  Of the road maintenance system and the park system, the water system is number one.  They may have other issues, but their water control system is excellent.  We have a person on board who operates the system.  We work with SFWMD, but at the same time it has its downfall because people do not understand the system.  I deal with the citizen aspect of it, explaining to people in a rational way why we cannot do whatever we feel like with the canal systems.

            It keeps coming back to the same.  What is the mission?  It is what you have to ask yourself.  If the mission is water control, then you need to have someone locally who understands the engineering aspect of it.  I am not an engineer.  There are people who do this.  You want someone who can put it all together.  When I worked with Mr. Rosenbaum, he was a big picture person who can still focus on main points.  I am the nuts and bolts guy.  I take all of these parts and put them together.  This is why we work so well together.  The open space program he mentioned was an idea he came up with and I helped put together.  It is the same way with a water control district.  You have different elements and need to put them together in a cohesive way to make everything work. 

            I do not know your relationship with SFWMD, but they are a source of money.  I do not know if you are getting the grants you should.  We just picked up a grant last week for $50,000 to study some of the flow ways.  They came to us.  You must have a good relationship with them.  I do not know if you do or not.  I hope you do. 

            This comes down to a couple of things.  I truly believe you want somebody local who you can call up with your needs and have them on the spot.  This is what we do.  We are a growing company and we respond in a rapid manner.  We believe in high levels of service.  You also need someone who has intergovernmental relationships.  It is very important.  If you want to exist alone, it is okay.  I do not think it is a wise choice because you are part of a larger system and you have to tap into the system as a resource.  They are there for us and they are there for you.  You need to take advantage of it.  Relationships with other special districts are good because you get to share ideas. 

            The Florida Association of Special Districts annual meeting is in Duck Key.  I was in Tallahassee in March talking with these people.  When I went to Tallahassee I talked with Mr. Lewis who is the statewide attorney for special districts.  I spoke with people out of the west coast in Bonita Springs.  You learn how people do things differently.  It is an advantage to you.  It does not cost much and you can bring it back.  We are not agents of change.  We are agents of execution.  We do what the Board wants us to do.  We go in the direction you want us to take.  We are good at it.

            Ms. Ribotsky asked do you manage any water districts in Broward County?

            Mr. Rosenbaum responded no.  The county map says the water districts are actually CDDs.  We have lakes and other water structures, but we do not manage a canal system like you do here other than Indian Trails.

            Ms. Ribotsky asked where will you site staff?

            Mr. Rosenbaum responded preferably at this end of the county.  It is important to be close and to be responsive.  The whole idea of this business is responsiveness and communications.  You need to know what is going on.  If something goes wrong, people need to know.  What were the failures of government last year?  Communications were not as good as they should have been.  We are a government and we need to do this.  Proximity is important and communication is important.

            Ms. Benckenstein asked who will attend the meetings?

            Mr. Rosenbaum responded the manager in charge of the project, which will be Mr. Mearns, and I attend the meetings.  If you go to the redevelopment meeting in Margate or to Coral Bay, I attend 90% of the meetings.  Our roles are different.  Mr. Mearns will do the daily operations.  I want to make sure everything is flowing and I attend most of the meetings in most of the districts.  I do not attend the finance meetings.  In terms of the operating functions of our company I am hands on.  I do the budgets and a great deal of intergovernmental relations.  Broward County has grown and we have grown into dependents.  We sometimes have to untangle problems between governments so they do not become bigger problems. 

            Ms. Bertolami asked from your research, have you identified any particular areas you see this District needing improvement on?

            Mr. Mearns responded I cannot really comment on it other than the question I have regarding your relationship with water managing.  It should be your top priority.  When I asked about this District being associated with other special districts, it is something you need to develop a relationship with.  In terms of the daily operations, I will have to get deeper into the District.

            Mr. Rosenbaum stated we do not have the specific knowledge of the daily operations.  Some of the things you think about such as aesthetics and the quality of maintenance, we currently have a higher standard in most communities than we had five years ago.  Some of the drainage structures probably need to be refurbished.  We met with Mr. Craven and we asked the questions, but we do not have the specific information to address it.  It is something we bring back to the Board.  We go out there and research.  It is not something we do unilaterally.  This is a process of a building relationship with a team.  We go out there and if there are problems or new ideas, we bring it back.  If you look at what Mr. Mearns was talking about with the Florida Association of Special Districts, they are bringing new ideas.  Districts did not get grants before.  They never received grants.  Districts are getting grants now, not only from SFWMD.  They are getting beautification grants, projects with the county and recreational grants.  Those are things you might want to explore if it is in your mission. 

            Mr. Mearns stated we are not agents of change.  There is one thing, which should be done in the beginning by any organization coming in.  You need to do a management analysis.  You need to have an inventory of your capital needs, your assets and their condition.  You need to bench mark all of these things.  If you need to develop a capital improvement program, you need to know it now so you do not have a failure in the future you did not anticipate.  It goes back on your shoulders and you need to know it.  You also need a best management practice analysis.  Are you doing the right things at the right time and in the right way?  They are not changes.  It is a different way of looking at the situation.  You need to do this.  It is something we bring to the picture.  We have a number of specialists working for us who are use to doing these things.  It is what we do. 

            People in your position do not like surprises.  Let me tell you where surprises come from.  They come from issues not being addressed, information not being passed and sitting on facts.  You need to know right away what is happening.  It is important.  Whether you choose us or someone else, please insist this Board undertake this process.

            Mr. Rosenbaum stated the other thing is the new accounting standards, GASB 34.  You are looking at your public inventory unlike in the past where cities, special districts and all public entities use to be able to let these things deteriorate and walk away from it.  You cannot do it now.  The inventory is there and the information is there.  You have to look at maintaining your assets.  It has become a fiscal issue.  It is something, which needs to be addressed as you move forward.

            Mr. Mearns stated when I got to Indian Trail it became apparent very quickly they were vastly behind the times in many of their processes and procedures.  I was mortified at how they purchased things and how they filed things.  It was bad.  I hope you are not there.  I have no reason to believe you are.  It never hurts to have a different set of eyes look at the same thing because you get the proverbial second opinion.  It gives you cause to think about where you are in the stream of your management.  Whether you choose us or someone else, it will be beneficial to you.

            Mr. Rosenbaum stated it is what we did in Indian Trail.  We brought the entire team in from our company.  The proper thing to do is find out what problems you have and address them.  You have the opportunity to discuss if something is a possible problem and what you are going to do.  Bring everything out.  Communication is important.  Let us communicate about the problems and find out what is going wrong.  After years of doing this, the most common thing we say to each other is we have seen this before.  What you do is so important.  People do not realize how important drainage districts are in this county.  They need to be run well.  Our job is assisting you to make it happen. 

            Mr. Rosenof stated thank you very much.

            The third presentation is from Governmental Management Services.

            Mr. Rosenof stated I do not think we need do introduce ourselves.  The floor is yours.

            Mr. Hans stated let me just make a quick introduction about the company, Governmental Management Services.  We are a family of companies.  We have three independent operations.  One is in Jacksonville, one is in Central Florida and one is in South Florida.  The South Florida operation will be servicing PTWCD if we are selected.  Our offices are off of Pine Island Road in Tamarac.  We are not too far from the District.  We have 11 employees at our office and another one is starting tomorrow.  We have grown significantly in the last year and a half.  We have over 42 districts we manage out of our South Florida office.  We will have three district managers.  Mr. Baldis is a field manager who takes care of the Turtle Run CDD next door to PTWCD.  He is familiar with the area, what is going on and the different contractors. 

            You are familiar with most of our experiences.  We worked with this District before.  I have and Mr. Hernandez has.  Mr. Baldis has not, but I can tell you about his experiences.  We will open up the floor to questions and concerns.

            Ms. Ribotsky stated your fees are close to double most of the other fees.

            Mr. Hans stated our fee might be higher.  As far as structure and management, we may work about the same as what you are paying.

            Ms. Ribotsky asked how negotiable is this number?

            Mr. Hans responded it is a pretty firm number.  We know what we need to do and the level of service you are requiring.  Because we will have a field manager included in the fee it will eliminate the fee of a shared employee you were paying in the past and will not need.

            Mr. Rosenof asked are you proposing to share a field manager?

            Mr. Hans responded he will be the direct oversight of your two employees. 

            Mr. Hernandez stated what we are trying to present is a complete presentation of what the District needs.  What you see here is an entity, which is being shared.  Due to the fact he does not work for us, we can no longer maintain the position available.  Our field manager will fulfill the position.  It is included in the price. 

            Mr. Ribotsky asked are you open to the idea of continuing to use Mr. Frederick as the field supervisor?  I think having a common supervisor with CSID has advantages.

            Mr. Hans responded we are open to what the Board desires.

            Ms. Ribotsky asked if this is the case, how will your fees change?  We need to compare apples to apples and we cannot do this.

            Mr. Hans responded it will be roughly $10,000 less.  I am not sure of the structure managing this District without having a field manager from our office being the direct contact person for any problems.  It is the most efficient way of doing it.  We can do it, but I do not know if it is the best way.  Our presentation is with the field manager.

            Mr. Rosenof asked who will be our day to day contact?

            Mr. Hans responded your day to day contact will be Mr. Baldis.  You will have his cell phone number.  If any residents have problems, there will be a call to him and chances are he will be out there the same day to talk with the resident.

            Mr. Rosenof asked who is our financial contact?

            Mr. Hans responded the treasurer for the District who will be handling the day to day money will be Ms. Powers.  Mr. Hernandez and I, as the District managers will be attending the meetings.  We are both working together on districts.  It will not be if I am not here, Mr. Hernandez will not know what happened.  We will both have an amount of understanding of what is going on.

            Ms. Ribotsky asked since both of you have experience with the District, what changes from a year ago will you make to be more effective?

            Mr. Hans responded the oversight and the day to day maintenance of having someone who is out there addressing the clean ups and maintenance.  We will not let things get out of hand as far as vegetation growing in swales and fences going up without finding out about them until six months after they are there.  Those are typical ongoing problems when you do not have a good oversight.  Mr. Baldis is proactive on seeing things change and making sure there are permits if people are building fences. 

            Mr. Hernandez stated Mr. Baldis is working with a District, which is next to PTWCD.  He is known within the District and is involved with the field operation.  We will be getting involved and based on his experience; we will be coming back to the Board with any improvements we can present.

            Mr. Rosenof stated thank you very much.

            The fourth presentation is from Severn Trent Services.

            Mr. Petty stated I have been with you since October.  Before I came to the District, you saw quite a few people during the transition period for Severn Trent.  The respect they were giving your District was not the respect you deserved.  Hopefully, I responded better than my predecessors.  It is my intent. 

            We gave you a proposal.  You can tell we are a credible firm.  We have solid resources.  I do not want to go too much into it.  Let me highlight the areas I feel we excel in when comparing us to the other highly credible professionals.  We are the most experienced management company.  Our history goes back 30 years.  I have 25 years with this company.  I am one of the few who still has 25 years experience, but we still have experience as a company.  We are the largest firm.  We still have the largest number of clients.  We still have the largest number of resources and personnel. 

            We offer specialties, which make us stand out amongst our competitors.  When I say our competitors, many of them were valiant assets of our firm before they went out on their own and I do not wish to demean their credibility.  Should you choose any of the firms presenting tonight, you will be well served.  I still think we are the best party.  I hope you realize it too. 

            We have a document management system in house we developed and work with.  It has been in place for at least 10 years.  The person handling our document management is Ms. Rugg who you probably have known for the 10 years she has been here.  She was number two behind Ms. Holiday for most of the time.  She has been running the department for the last two years by herself and doing a great job.  She was working the document management system for Ms. Holiday and doing districts.  She has picked up the best points of Ms. Holiday and has left out the non desirable points of Ms. Holiday.  We are very happy with the work she has done.  We hope you are too.

            She has a staff of approximately 12 people.  She has three document management systems she maintains for the public records of our districts, including PTWCD.  She has a proprietary scanning system, which takes any signed documents and puts them in optical storage as required by state law so in the case of an emergency we have all of the documents for your District going back to 1998.  Before that time, she keeps all of the paper records for this District available.  She has another system she uses, which I refer to as PC Docs.  I believe the new name for it is Document Management Five.  It is the same company, but it has been upgraded.  It is a state of the art relational data base for any documents.  It does anything under the sun.  We have it at approximately 80% capability because we are not a library.  That is used by all of our people on staff so all of our work papers, as they are created, are stored on this system.  This way everything we do for you is public record. 

            She has another one, which is somewhat experimental.  It uses artificial intelligence.  We take our data base she has, which is basically the documents she has created such as the minutes, the agendas, all the PDFs scanned in and it uses artificial intelligence for its search.  We are trying to find out if it gives us better search capabilities.  We are trying to get as fast as the Google style system you see on the internet.  We are finding out this data program has nice features we may be using.  There are three systems and it sets us apart when it comes to handling the public records for your District.

            We have our own IT department in house.  At times I wish I did not have to say it out loud.  If you are running a Windows system, which we are and it is how your system is run as well your administration is run, you need these guys.  We had Hurricane Wilma last fall.  Our building was hit as were many in Coral Springs.  Ms. Rugg and six or seven of her girls went inside the building against the wishes of the maintenance staff.  They took enough computers for their staff.  They grabbed all of the back ups and went to Sarasota.  They set up office in 24 hours.  Some of the look and feels, such as the fonts, may not have been the same.  We may have missed a period or comma, but they were able to do 98% of all the work non stop.  They stayed up there for I believe a week.

            Ms. Rugg stated eight days.

            Mr. Petty stated they worked non stop and then brought all of the equipment back.  We have a nice document management system and people, which have been dedicated to PTWCD for a long time.  We have an IT department, which helps to back it up.  We have systems to back it up.  We feel this sets us apart. 

            We just got done building our own government accounting program.  I do not know how familiar you are with any type of broad based software system, which says it is going to do everything.  These have specifically been the abyss for any government employee to find themselves in to try and implement one of these and make it work.  We hit the abyss.  Ms. Larned pulled us out.  She is the Treasury Director for our firm and has been with us since the fall of last year.  She has shown us the error of our ways in a great deal of places.  One of them being, buying a new software program without running it for six months.  We currently have a customized program for special districts.  It is functioning very well and we will be extremely proud of it.  We do not believe any of our competitors have anything close.

            It was built specifically for special taxing districts, which our firm has 30 years experience in.  We were the ones who had the money to put in to such a system and we have the experience to build it a certain way.  It is a complex data base and building it for your specific work flow is the hard part.  We feel we have done it.  The team working on PTWCD is relatively in tact, even though you have seen several different managers before me causing you to review your options.  Let me tell you who is behind the scenes, which you do not see.

            You know Ms. Rugg.  You probably know Ms. Slaughter who is her number two person.  You also have Ms. Larned who works on your District and worked with me on obtaining financing for the new construction project you are thinking of doing.  It is going to be approximately a half a million dollars.  We have a nice program to show you.  We are able to show it to you tonight.  We worked hard to have it ready.  We have a commitment letter from the financial institution for you tonight if you want to consider it.  I will try to get it in.  Mr. Kissoon has been working with the bank for the last 30 days telling them what PTWCD is and building the case for you having a good credit rating.  He works with us on special projects for a great deal of our districts.  He has been working with PTWCD during the issue of hurricane debris removal with FEMA and NRCS. 

            Mr. Zilmer has been doing pay roll for the field guys for 19 years.  Ms. Walker has been doing the accounting for PTWCD for 19 years.  Mr. Daly has been doing the data base management of your old accounting system, which we are bringing out the new one.  He was maintaining the old system for 16 years.  You know Mr. Frederick.  You have me, which I hope you are getting to know. 

            The companies you have seen tonight are competent.  They know districts.  I feel this District may be in a state of transition depending on how you evaluate the debris removal at your next meeting.  I am not one to speak of the past, since I have only been here since October.  I can tell you what my impressions are.  It appears PTWCD has been in a stewardship position for a long period of time.  You are the agency who has received drainage responsibilities from many different areas.  You were maintaining it to the best of your ability based on oral or handshake agreements.  Staff has been working with you in this regard for a long period of time.  There is no construction project.  There is no expansion.  There were a couple of job considerations, which were specific subdivisions, but no major changes to the drainage system. 

            You are looking at a change now.  By taking ownership of the canals, the system and the banks, you are changing it from a stewardship role to an ownership role.  I will be very proud if you consider me in this future as well.  I will end here and see if you have any questions.

            Ms. Benckenstein stated when I first came on, which was approximately a year ago, there was someone different at each meeting.  You just mentioned there are many people in your staff who have been working on PTWCD for many years.  Can you tell me why we had so many different managers?

            Mr. Petty responded I will give you an example.  The management service we provide is a consulting service.  It is how Mr. Moyer started it up 30 years ago.  With his expertise on running districts, he got new districts.  The record keeping and accounting were cost recovery items.  They were necessary functions for the job.  His main job was providing consulting services.  Land management development consulting services was what he had on his card.  That is where he got his reputation from and how he built the company.  Accounting grew as a necessity.  Records grew as a necessity.  These are not profit vendors.  They are cost recovery we do for the client. 

            When Severn Trent Services was purchased from Mr. Moyer, Mr. Moyer stayed up until two and a half years ago.  The corporate structure became too cumbersome for Mr. Moyer.   He still loves his work and he still has a strong feeling for all of the entities he worked with.  The corporate experience is difficult for a founder.  In an engineering firm where you are a consultant, you will find when your engineers get enough experience they split off.  That is what happened to us.  There was a reason for being so.  The founder left.  They looked at their options and some very capable people from Severn Trent Services saw a future as independents.  You saw a couple of them tonight and I believe you have one more to see.  This is not bad or good.  It is a fact of life.  This is what happens in the cycle of a maturing company.  We have a great deal to offer at Severn Trent Services.  These people have a great deal to offer.

            Ms. Benckenstein asked will you be the one attending the meetings all of the time?

            Mr. Petty responded there is a reason why I am staying.  This is my company.  I was the first employee and I am not letting anyone else have it.  Mr. Moyer started the company and he sold the company.  I was not one of the payable people on the list.  This is what I have. 

            Ms. Ribotsky asked can you talk about if you propose the fees to change, any improvement you would like to make over what we are doing or staffing changes?

            Mr. Petty responded I am excited about you making this change from a maintenance District to one with ownership.  I met with the City Manager for Parkland and he has brought to me issues, which seem to go back 15 years.  I find things do not make sense.  We are a drainage District, yet we only take care of a flow way down the middle of a canal.  This is unusual in my experience.  I would love to see this District mature, grow and be more responsive in the area of drainage.  It helps the City of Parkland.  It helps the District.

            You have a good start.  You have a field crew of three men, which can grow to whatever you need.  If you need people to mow the grass and swales like they were doing for a long time, we can give you those people.  We can expand.  We have the core machine and these guys have been around forever.  They know how to do it.  We can do this.  I would love to show you how to do this.  I would love to be able to be responsive to you instead of coming to the meetings with excuses.  Will I change the number of people?  I would love to be able to increase them based on the responsibilities of this District and the needs of the residents.

            I am a firm believer in communication.  I am a firm believer in a great deal of things.  My priority is to take direction from the Board.  At these meetings I will give you my recommendations, but I will do whatever you tell me to do.  It is my job.  It is also my job to offer counter points.  I would like to see us get more involved and have a bigger crew.  I would like to see us do the swales.  I believe the swale drainage is ours.  I believe it is ours because we can probably do it better than the city.  We know drainage.  It is our job to handle drainage.  We understand what will block flow and what will not block flow.  We have the pumps and know how to bring the equipment to fix it.  I would love to have the City of Parkland as a partner versus having someone call me up after a hurricane saying, “Is this not yours.” 

            Ms. Benckenstein stated the City of Coral Springs too.

            Mr. Petty stated we did not get a call from the City of Coral Springs.  As you know the area of Coral Springs affected by this is small and the main arterial drainage system does not go there.  There are some small secondary systems.  There is the one small area, which is still in unincorporated Broward.

            Ms. Ribotsky stated it will be Parkland in September.

            Mr. Petty stated it is a nice area. 

            Ms. Ribotsky stated we have to figure out which District it is going to go into and have an expansion of the District perhaps.

            Mr. Petty stated I would like to be a part of it.  Communication is a big deal.  It is important in government for the people you work for, which are the residents, to understand what you do and put value to it.  If they do not put value to it, how do they know what you are doing?  I know in the past, PTWCD has kept its cost for information to residents to a minimum because our idea was to keep costs as low as possible.  I suggest we get bigger on communication so residents understand who we are and what we do.  In particular if we take on some of these drainage responsibilities. 

            There are many new ideas out there we are implementing with some of your sister districts.  I would love to show them off to you, but they are not applicable now.  There are many new things we are trying.  The website concept we talked about last month is part of the process.  There are additional document management systems we can implement to make available to all residents over the internet so they have access to all of these documents and can read them.  They will not have to call us for the minutes.  They will be able to access them off the web. 

            We would like to see some better attention to the engineering process.  There is a recommendation for the facility report to be evaluated every five years by every drainage district.  It is part of CDD requirements and special taxing districts.  We would have our engineer evaluate our system every five years and give us the status on it.  We would put the report out and try to gage ourselves in our annual operation to get it.

            Mr. Rosenof stated one of the other presenters had a grant writer on their staff.

            Ms. Bertolami stated a company of your size has many resources to come up with creative funding.

            Mr. Petty stated yes.  Do we do many grants?  The answer is no.  It is more complicated if I go in depth.  I will go in there a bit to get in trouble with Ms. Larned and then I will turn it over to her.  In her experience as Finance Director for Sarasota County and Kansas City, working with the banking system before that, she has experience with the application receipt of government funds.  It has been our company’s position for 30 years; this type of money is problematic.  There are conditions, times and accounting procedure, which may cost more than the benefit of the money itself.  The idea there is such a thing as free money does not exist.  I heard people describe it as other people’s money.  It does not exist.  I have spent a considerable part of my time with this company doing financial analysis and every time I have looked at it, I can find a better financial position by not.  Let me turn it over to Ms. Larned.

            Ms. Larned stated each grant and what would be available should be evaluated on its own merit.  Everyone has to look beyond the immediate value of getting the dollars.  You have to look at the long term commitments, which may come in the succeeding years.  It ultimately falls to the residents and whether or not they are willing to make a long term commitment. 

            As the Board representing the District, it is something needing to be taken into consideration other than the immediate value of receiving the cash versus trying to generate your own.  It still meets the same needs and you do it by maintaining your own control.  When you take grants, in some cases you end up losing control as the Board in representing your constituents.  This is what needs to be looked at in every case. 

            Mr. Petty mentioned my experience in Kansas City.  We got to the point where we were dependent upon grants.  We found ourselves in situations where when devolution occurred at the federal level, we ended up having to generate new revenue sources to replace the grants or we would lose control of the city.  At Sarasota County, they took it up as a policy where the only grants they took were the law enforcement grants.  Even then we knew the five and ten year commitments being made.  Grants were invented for the ability to make immediate recovery, but not to restore to previous conditions.  They leave it up to the individuals to determine what there own future, desires, needs and abilities to pay will be.  We have grant writers.  It is a matter of investigating whether it is a grant worth pursuing or if it is one you say good bye to because you want to maintain control. 

            Mr. Petty stated when she says we have grant writers; we do not have anyone with this title.  They are financial analyst working under her treasury services.  They do analysis of the benefits for such things.  The only ones I know of going through us for grants for the park system is the City of Weston. 

            Mr. Brewer stated the only concern I have from the standpoint of the District is in regard to what they said about grants.  As a Board we have a responsibility to have money.  We are going to get in trouble if we go a half a million dollars this year and we go $2 Million next year.  Where do you stop when you say, “Maybe we should have had a half a million dollars and we have no money?”  We are running this thing on a shoe string.  It is easy to say we are going to borrow a half a million dollars for Hurricane Wilma, but what if we get hit next month.  We do not have money.  We could hardly do the studies to find out how to get money.

            Mr. Petty stated the money we have available for you is not to cause harm.  We think what you just said does cause harm.  You have $474,000 in reserve.  The cost for cleaning this up is approximately $490,000.

            Ms. Ribotsky stated everyone has their own different reserve philosophy based on whether it is a portion of assessments or a portion of the total budget.  When you say we have $400,000 in reserve, sitting here as the Vice Mayor I’m saying, “That is pretty good.  The whole City of Parkland has $2 Million.”  It might be enough.  Is there a formula?

            Mr. Petty responded it is a policy we will ask the Board when you consider the construction program as part of your budget.  It was our intent.  Let me talk a bit about the philosophy and I will again turn it over to Ms. Larned.  When we looked at the loan, we looked at how much money we had available to us.  We have $474,000.  If we take all of this money out, what do we live on for the next three months being we have no more money coming?  All of the assessments will be paid.  How will we live for the first three months of the next fiscal year because we will not get assessments until January? 

            Mr. Rosenof stated assuming there is not another storm.

            Mr. Petty stated I have a carry forward plus what if there is another storm?  This is why we said we must have this financing mechanism.  We feel we have a good thing for you to consider.  We are happy with it.  It does not solve your issue of what we have for reserves.

            Ms. Ribotsky stated my philosophy is it should be during the three months for a cash flow crisis.  It is not necessarily to have enough money for every single major disaster, which might happen. 

            Mr. Petty stated your philosophy is cost conscious because those three months are a real issue.  It is not a possibility, it is real.  You will need the money to survive and at the end of December you will be close to broke.  We like to have three months as a common business practice.  We sometimes do not call it part of the reserve.  We call it carry forward.  We do reserve funds where you go out and tax the existing homeowners for the possibility of a calamity.  My presentation to you is to not tax existing residents for future benefits, which might be gone by the time you use their money.  They are paying you for a system, which should be kept in good working order.  You have great credit.  You can either have the money in cash or you can have a financial policy.  I am going to recommend you have a financial policy in place so if you have the need for money, you get the money at the time and the residents pay for the benefits when they receive the use of those funds.

            Ms. Benckenstein asked do you mean like a line of credit?

            Mr. Petty responded exactly. 

            Mr. Rosenoff stated if there are no more questions, let us wrap it up. 

            The fifth presentation is from Special District Services, Inc.

            Mr. Kalin stated I will leave my contact business card if anyone needs it.

            Mr. Rosenof stated let us do our introductions once again.

            The Board and Ms. Rugg introduced themselves.

            Mr. Kalin stated I am representing Special District Services, Inc. with the desire to provide your District with full management services.  I know this has been a long day for most of you and I will make this as short and concise as possible. 

            Our firm is a Florida based company organized to meet the growing demand of urban services in new emerging and mature communities throughout the state.  I am before you this evening without an extensive and elaborate presentation; however, what our firm does offer and will bring to you is dedication, experience and a team philosophy, which will deliver results. 

            Hopefully, Mr. Doody circulated our company profile and everyone has one with them.  Special District Services, Inc. was founded in 1993 by Mr. Pimental, President, and Mr. Norris, Executive Vice President.  This executive management team has combined over 82 years of experience serving special and general purpose local governments in the private sector development industry.  I personally have 15 years experience in the local government sector, 13 of those years were spent as District Director Manager with full management responsibilities at South Broward Drainage District servicing a population of 250,000 residents. 

            Our team of staff members includes consultants, a finance director, accounts payable and receivable clerks, records keeping clerks, administrative assistants and a certified public accountant along with several experienced district managers.  For the purpose of continuity and to develop a relationship with the district, our firm has the ability to assign to your District a manager who you, your staff and constituents can communicate and share ideas with.  Our firm, in addition to management of special districts, has had extensive experience in the drafting of special act legislation, administration of assessment rolls, special assessment methodology reporting and election procedure administration. 

            Whether it is aquatic weed management, stormwater management or developing your annual operating budget, Special District Services, Inc. has the tools to deliver a rewarding public and private partnership.  On behalf of Special District Services, Inc., I would like to thank the Board for the opportunity to speak before you this evening.  I will entertain any of your questions.  A great deal of what I said is included in your booklet, but I gave an overview.

            Ms. Benckenstein asked who will be attending our meetings?

            Mr. Kalin responded it will be me.  I live in Broward County and I am familiar with Broward County and Broward County government.  I will be the primary on your account.

            Ms. Ribotsky stated one of the things your proposal omits is a fee.

            Mr. Kalin stated I am prepared to provide you with it this evening.  The lump sum management fee is $36,000.

            Ms. Ribotsky asked are there other costs?

            Mr. Kalin responded there are out of pocket expenses, which will be additional.  Your usual and customary legal advertising is required.  Postage, telephone and office supplies are additional.

            Ms. Ribotsky asked are special meetings or anything over a certain amount of meetings additional?

            Mr. Kalin responded no.  It is included in the lump sum fee.

            Ms. Ribotsky asked are field operations not included?

            Mr. Kalin responded that is correct.

            Ms. Ribotsky asked how do you propose to handle field operations since you do not have an office here?

            Mr. Kalin responded it will have to be negotiated.  We will have to discuss how it will be handled.

            Ms. Bertolami asked do you have any particular recommendations for our District?

            Mr. Kalin responded I had an opportunity to sit with Mr. Craven and I have an idea of your geographic boundaries.  I have not toured your District.  We looked at it on air.  At this time, I do not have any recommendations to the Board on how the District should or should not be run.

            Ms. Bertolami asked do you see any trends in districts?

            Mr. Kalin responded the constituents are becoming more educated and more demanding on Boards.  They are savvier.  They want to know where there tax dollars are going and they want accountability, which is reasonable. 

            Ms. Ribotsky stated you mentioned you live in Broward County and I am looking at your special districts.  They seem to be primarily in Dade County and some in Palm Beach County.  You do not have anything in Broward County.  I guess you are running other districts.

            Mr. Kalin stated yes I am. 

            Ms. Ribotsky asked have you previously had other districts in Broward County?

            Mr. Kalin responded no.  There was a small district, but Special District Services, Inc. does not manage the district any longer.  If you need the name of the district, I will be happy to provide it.  I do not have it this evening. 

            Mr. Rosenof stated thank you.

            Mr. Kalin asked may I ask when the selection will be or is there another process?

            Mr. Rosenof responded we are considering this a workshop and there will be a discussion at our next meeting as to what steps we want to take.  We do not have a definitive timeframe mapped out.  This is informational to see what the other options are if we do indeed choose to change.  We may not choose to change.  This is for the Board to figure out who the other players are and what their qualifications are.

            Mr. Kalin stated please take my card.  If there is anything you might have a question on or you feel I have not covered, please call me and I will get you the answer.

 

ELEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS                     Adjournment

            There being no further business,

 

On MOTION by Ms. Benckenstein seconded by Ms. Ribotsky with all in favor the meeting was adjourned at 8:20 p.m.

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                         

 Jean M. Rugg                                                                 David Rosenof

 Assistant Secretary                                                         President