MINUTES OF MEETING
CORAL SPRINGS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT
The regular meeting of the Board of
Supervisors of the Coral Springs Improvement District was held Monday, October
23, 2000 at 4:00 P.M. in the District Office, 10300 N. W. 11 Manor, Coral
Springs, Florida.
Present and constituting a quorum
were:
Robert Fennell President
Clint Churchill Secretary
Karl Miller Vice President
Also present were:
Gary L. Moyer Manager
Rhonda K. Archer Finance
Director
Dennis Lyles Attorney
Donna Holiday Recording Secretary
John McKune Gee & Jenson
Roger Moore Engineer
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS Roll Call
Mr. Fennell called the meeting to
order at 4:10 p.m. and Mr. Moyer called the roll.
SECOND
ORDER OF BUSINESS Approval of the
Minutes of the September 18, and September 27, 2000 Meetings
Mr. Fennell stated that each Board
member had received a copy of the minutes of the September 18, and September
27, 2000 meetings and requested any additions, corrections or deletions.
There not being any,
On MOTION by Mr. Miller seconded by
Mr. Churchill with all in favor the minutes of the September 18, and September
27, 2000 meetings were approved as submitted.
THIRD
ORDER OF BUSINESS Consideration
of Award of Contract for the Purchase of Chemicals and Herbicides
Mr. Moyer stated it is that time of
year again when we go through the process of competitively bidding herbicides
for use in the treatment of aquatics within the District's waterways. There are a variety of chemicals that are
listed on the bid tabulation along with the costs. Attached to the bid tabulation is a memorandum from Nick Schooley
indicating that some of these products that were protected by patent are no
longer protected and that there are other products on the market that are
basically the same and provide the same level of effectiveness and it is his
recommendation that we obtain those chemicals rather than paying for the
proprietary chemical that we had purchased heretofore because of patent
protection. I recommend to the Board
that we accept staff's recommendation.
Mr. Fennell asked what exactly is
staff's recommendation?
Mr. Moyer responded I will go
through the list.
Hydrothol Granules - Helena Chemical
Cutrine Plus - Helena Chemical
Sonar SRP - Pro Source One
Induce - Helena Chemical
Polymer - Helena Chemical
Hydrothol 191 - Helena Chemical
Aquathol K - Helena Chemical
2, 4-D L.V.4 - Pro Source One
Pro Source One and Helena bid the
same for Sonar AS and it is my recommendation that we do as we did last year
and award it to both and when we need the chemical it will be purchased from
the one who has availability.
Rodeo is the product that is no
longer protected by the patent and if we were to purchase Rodeo then Pro Source
is the low bid. However, Helena
Chemical bid a lesser amount for Aqua Neat which is a comparable product.
Lesco is the low bid on Reward at
$96.45 but there is a letter from Seneca, the manufacturer of Reward indicating
that they will no longer allow their agents to bid Reward and to call one of
their agents for a price. A call to
both venders resulted in a price today of $85.00.
Mr. Fennell stated there may be
issues connected with a manufacturer not allowing a chemical to be bid. I think this has to be a bid situation. There cannot be price fixing.
Mr. Moyer stated with the quantities
we are talking about, it has to be bid.
Mr. Fennell stated as I understand
fair trade practices, you can't to an end user fix the prices. It can only be a suggested retail price, it
can never be a fixed price. I don't
know if it is just us or others but it could be a legal issue.
Mr. Lyles stated it is not the kind
of law I am routinely involved in, it is securities law.
Mr. Fennell stated we are a small
group but it appears that they are not able to bid their prices.
Mr. Churchill stated we did go out
for bids on this and we received a higher price on the bid and a lesser price
by calling the agents.
Mr. Fennell stated it is $24,000 and
it may not be worth a large legal bill to look into it.
Mr. Lyles stated you can do certain
things such as notify the Attorney General's office and that is not a legal
expense to you or you can file a proceeding in Washington and do it at the
federal agency level and that is when you get into horribly expensive legal and
expert fees. I am not sure exactly what
the letter from Seneca means. It can
also mean they are selling the product directly, they are not distributing it
to wholesalers who are then going to submit bids. They are selling it directly and if you talk to anybody about
this particular product, it is one of their representatives and they are all
going to get it for the same price so it is always going to be the same price
to you. It is not going to be bid and
we buy it for whatever price it is.
That is how I interpret this letter.
Price fixing is when various
suppliers get together and agree that they won't submit a price any less than
X. This company is just saying they are
the only ones who sell this product and they are selling it directly to field
representatives so there is no point in doing the bid procedure on it. The price is the price.
Mr. Fennell stated it is not worth
us fighting it but there are many other Districts throughout Broward County and
the State of Florida probably doing this very same bid process and getting the
same letter. It is not worth us
fighting it but it may be worth seeing if we are getting abused as a
group. We are buying by brand names
instead of generic maybe we should see if there are other products
available. Maybe we should be bidding
these products as brand names or equivalent.
If our bid is for Rodeo, then they have to bid Rodeo.
Mr. Moyer stated your point is well
taken. This is the first year that some
of these products have come off patent protection. I agree we can do that.
Mr. Fennell stated this time we can
let it go but next year maybe we should do the brand name or equivalent. That way we can see what is possible and
what is environmentally sound and at the same time do something for us.
Mr. Lyles stated if you put "or
equivalent" in the bid then it becomes a question of what has the same
composition as Rodeo. You may have to
be a little more specific.
Mr. Moyer stated we have done that
and manufacturers will come in and either prove it is a product as good as or
not. Curtrine Plus is an example of
that because it is a copper based product and all of the competitors on an
"or equal" basis have less copper than Cutrine Plus. That determination is made by staff quickly
because the other products do not meet the specifications. We can do that and I don't think that will
be a problem.
Mr. Miller stated previously we put
a 100 gallon limit on Reward and if we need more we can get more.
On MOTION by Mr. Miller seconded by
Mr. Churchill with all in favor the contract for the purchase of chemicals was
awarded to the low bidder as outlined above by Mr. Moyer with the Rodeo being
replaced by Aqua Neat and with a 100 gallon limit put on Reward rather than the
250 gallons bid and if more is needed than more can be purchased but only on an
as needed basis.
FOURTH
ORDER OF BUSINESS Consideration of
Change Order with Farmers Manufacturing for Pump Station No. 2 in the Amount of
$170,014
Mr. McKune stated Mr. Moore and Ms.
Archer have discussed taking money that is allocated in the new budget and
putting through a change order to the current contract. We have a change order to add one engine and
one pump at Pump Station No. 2 which will give us new pumps in all bays in both
stations and one new engine for one that we would like to replace.
Mr. Moore stated we put five new
pumps and two new engines in the pump stations. All the pumps have been replaced at Pump Station 1 and 2 with the
exception of pump 1 in pump station 2 which has a Waukesha engine installed in
1989 and it needs a new pump. We had a
change order for concrete repair and we found three other locations that needed
the same thing and this is one of the three.
The other two have been repaired and the pumps are in place. We budgeted $60,000 for a new pump and our
budget for engine replacement is about $220,000 as of the end of last
year. I want to take the money for the
engine and the money for the budgeted pump and have you authorize one whole new
unit to replace pump no. 1 in pump station no. 2. If you approve this change order you will have all new pumps in
both pump stations. We need to work
with Ms. Archer to budget replacements of the five Cummings engines over the
next two to five years. The Waukesha
engine is the oldest engine. The parts
are hard to get and Waukesha and Cummings are no longer making gas engines and
that is way we are going to Caterpillar.
Mr. Fennell stated it looks like the
engines are only lasting about 10 or 15 years if I am reading this chart
correctly.
Mr. Moore responded that is the
Cummings and Waukesha. They seem to not
last as long as the original engines.
Caterpillar says their engines will last longer. We are designing them to run at 1600 rpm as
opposed to 1800 rpm which keeps the noise down and increases longevity. Also the permitting requirements for Diesel
are very difficult, the LP gas is still lightly regulated.
Mr. Moyer stated you have to have
double walled tanks and monitoring wells when you have Diesel tanks.
Mr. McKune stated it is considered a
hazardous material.
Mr. Moyer stated unfortunately the
regulations change every 36 months and then we deal with it all over
again. You never really have a system
you are comfortable with that doesn't have to be changed every time.
Mr. Fennell stated this is $170,000
can we do this with a change order?
Mr. Moyer responded this was
competitively bid but that was under the replacement program that the Board
awarded six months ago. We are aware
that the Board is concerned about doing change orders unless we can justify the
reason for the change order. We can go
through the process of re-bidding this but we are not sure that we would get
bids that are any better because now we have a contractor who is familiar with what
he has to do to install the new pump and motor.
On MOTION by Mr. Miller seconded by
Mr. Churchill with all in favor the change order with Farmers Manufacturing for
Pump Station No. 2 in the amount of $170,014 was approved.
Mr. Churchill stated we still have
original equipment such as drive shafts.
Is there a potential for failure?
Do we need to replace the clutches and drive shaft?
Mr. Moore responded the clutches
have probably been replaced or fixed over the years. The drive shaft, engine and transmission clutche is one
assembly. I would like to put together
a two to five year plan and see which engines are running better. On pump no. 1 in Pump Station No. 2 we had a
$6,000 repair in 1998. I believe you
will have to replace these five engines, transmissions and drive shafts within
the next two to five years.
Mr. Moyer stated remember in each of
these stations, we now have a spare pump and motor. I hope we have addressed the worst case scenario where we lose a
pump or motor because we still have the spare.
We are not supposed to run all four at the same time under our
permit.
Mr. Churchill stated the cost of
completing this is relatively small. If
there is any danger of failure I think it would be a mistake not to do
that. I am being assured that is not
the case and I am satisfied with that.
Mr. Moore stated it is my
understanding that they will last two to five years. We want to plan now to replace these and we estimate it will cost
about $90,000 for each drive train.
FIFTH
ORDER OF BUSINESS Consideration
of Permit Request from FP&L for Underground Crossing at University Drive
and the L-106 Canal
Mr. Moyer stated the L-106 Canal is
just north of Riverside Drive and this is a typical FP&L request for
underground crossing. It has been
reviewed by staff and there is nothing out of the ordinary in this request.
On MOTION by Mr. Miller seconded by
Mr. Churchill with all in favor the permit request by FP&L for an
underground crossing at University Drive and the L-106 Canal was approved
subject to the conditions listed in the engineer's review letter.
SIXTH ORDER OF BUSINESS Staff Reports
A. Attorney
Mr.
Fennell stated I did go before The Broward Committee on Charter Review last
Thursday and talked about what we are doing and how we are working. The points I put forward were that we are
focused, we don't have any issues as far as conflicts of where the money has to
go. We only have a couple of jobs to do
and we want to make sure the money goes for that. If it doesn't we want to make sure it goes back to the
people. We are not building a civic
center or anything like that. We are
well represented. there are three of us on the Board for an area of
approximately 20,000 people. That is
higher representation than we have in the City of Coral Springs. More than that it is an interested
representative in that each of us on the Board is aware that there is something
at stake here that hits us personally since we have to live in this
District. Our houses could flood, so
there is a high degree of interest and we don't have to be interested in any
other area because we own this area. We
own the canals and the utility. The
third item is that it is relatively efficient.
One can make lots of cases for bigger government and bigger
organizations being efficient but we don't need to be more efficient than we
are for the pumps that we have because we are only draining a certain
area. Where we need business services
we are using professional management which spreads our cost across everything. I pointed out that essentially we have
efficient services because we are spreading costs where appropriate and we have
local representation. The question was
asked if we could combine services and I think you could but only if you can
also combine the representation. I
didn't say that at the meeting but if we were to combine with North Springs we
could enlarge the Board to five. Still,
there is an issue of who owns what.
Mr.
Lyles asked are you going to participate in future meetings because they are
going to have a series of Charter Revision Commission public hearings around
the County over the coming months.
Mr.
Fennell stated I saw that they were having these meetings, but it didn't look
like they were looking for much input from anyone. They are aware of what we are doing.
Mr.
Churchill stated in terms of observing what went on it appears that in regards
to the Improvement District, either they have made up their minds or they
consider it of minimal interest because anybody who dealt with that issue,
which was Mr. Fennell and one other gentleman, they stopped them at 3
minutes. People speaking about EMS or
fire and police services, had unlimited time to speak.
Mr.
Fennell stated we will continue to monitor that.
B. Engineer
1. Monthly Water and Sewer Charts
2. Update on Construction
Mr.
McKune stated the monthly water and sewer charts are in the agenda
package.
Mr.
Fennell asked what are we doing with the chlorine?
Mr.
McKune responded hopefully, at the next meeting I will give you a formal
proposal to do something. It will cost
about $100,000 per year to go to the liquid chlorine system which will result
in a great degree of safety in our operations.
Mr.
Miller stated I seem to remember when Mr. Adair was on the Board that there
always seemed to be an excess of chlorine in the lines. Is there anything we can do?
Mr.
McKune responded you can reduce the amount fed into the lines. The problem is not the amount fed here but
it is the amount remaining in the system at the extremities. We need to feed enough here so that at the
extremities we still have the minimum indicated amount. It degrades over time through travel in the
system. Even though chlorine is a hazardous
material, when mixed properly in the water, it is safe.
Mr.
Churchill stated the measurement was taken here at the plant.
Mr.
McKune responded that is correct. There
are other materials besides chlorine that can be used but only chlorine
maintains that residual disinfectant property in the system.
As
you aware we have awarded the contract for the water plant improvements and
anticipate next week issuing a notice to proceed and having a preconstruction
meeting with the contractor. We
received a copy of the draft report from Mr. Stephenson who is our peer review
engineer and we will probably cover those items at the next meeting.
Ms.
Archer stated we will present the final report at the next meeting.
Mr.
Moyer stated the vast majority of what was in the report dealt with minor
modifications to various plan sheets which is what we wanted him to do. In my cursory review of that report I didn't
see anything alarming.
Mr.
Moore stated they started out complimenting the design.
Mr.
McKune stated with your approval, I will issue the notice to proceed to the
contractor with specific instructions not to order any materials that may be
covered or impacted by the results of the report which he can easily work
around.
Mr.
Fennell stated we still have another phase of the wastewater treatment facility
to do.
Mr.
McKune responded we are in a position to present alternatives to District staff
and Mr. Stephenson. That is our next
step.
Mr.
Moyer stated Mr. Fennell is asking in terms of our time line when it will be
out to bid.
Mr.
McKune responded that is the difficult part.
We are finalizing the drawings and we will review them with Mr.
Stephenson and hopefully, he will agree with the approach so that the drawings
as prepared can be bid and we don't have to re-invent the wheel.
Mr.
Fennell asked have you shown him the preliminary drawings yet?
Mr.
McKune responded he wanted to concentrate on the water plant first.
Mr.
Fennell stated let him catch up with you.
Don't wait for him to catch up.
I want to make sure we get that built.
Mr.
McKune stated there are two major items in front of us on the wastewater
treatment plant. Will we need a fifth
treatment unit and the other aspect is solids handling system. What we have envisioned over the past few
years has been impacted by changes made by the State as it relates to the final
disposition of sludge solids. The
District has a contract with H & H Haulers to take the sludge and dispose
of it on their farms. They were told
not too long ago that they would have ninety days to cease and desist on those
particular properties. They came up
with alternative disposal areas. Our
concern is that within one year or five years, the State is going to change the
rules such that if we build something today, we will have to rebuild it in five
years. We want to make sure that
whatever we build today is going to be appropriate five years from now. There are certain things we need to be
determined for us by the State. We are
going to meet with not only staff but with H & H who has the contract and
their own permit for disposal. We will
meet with the appropriate State regulators to see what they foresee.
Mr.
Fennell asked what are our alternatives?
Mr.
McKune responded right now we are producing a Class B sludge. You can produce a Class A sludge which means
you can put it in a plastic bag and sell it at Publix. The problem is, no one buys it. You can spend a lot of money making
environmentally safe sludge and end up with truckloads of nice safe sludge that
you have to haul off and dump. Why go
with Class A when you can stay with Class B as long as you have a disposal
method.
Mr.
Moyer stated the trick of what we are trying to accomplish so that we don't
spend a lot of money, although this is an expensive process to do Class B but
build it in a way that it can be converted to Class A if they ever tell us we
have to convert.
Mr.
McKune stated it may be as simple as going to Class A if the County will agree
to let us take the Class A and put it in their landfill.
Mr.
Fennell asked is anybody else in the County doing that?
Mr.
McKune responded no. We will all face
the same problem eventually.
C. Superintendent
There
not being any, the next item followed.
D. Complaints
There not being any, the next item
followed.
SEVENTH
ORDER OF BUSINESS Supervisor's
Requests and Audience Comments
Mr. Fennell stated we seem to have
come through the summer without any complains about odor.
Mr. Moyer stated I think the surge
tank has helped a lot and the rehab of Plants A and B. If these plants are working and you don't
exceed the design parameters, they can produce fairly well without producing a
lot of odor.
Mr. Miller stated there were a
couple of things that were not clear to me in the material sent out by the
Charter Review Commission in regards to the recommendations for special
districts. Are all of the waterways in
the District tested?
Mr. Moyer responded yes and they
have been since 1972.
Mr. Miller asked are the results of
those tests sent to D.E.P.?
Mr. Moyer responded our results,
under permit are sent to the South Florida Water Management District. The frustrating part when you read these
reports is that the information is there and has been for decades. We file it with the people who tell us where
to file it and then we have a new group come along and they raise the issue
that they are not getting the reports, you must not be doing something
correctly. The reality is there is a
vast amount of information on water quality within South Florida Water
Management District and there has been for years. The results of that water quality data indicate that urban
run-off does pollute but at our discharge points because there is enough
retention time within these systems, we are not putting polluted water into the
C-14 Canal. We did extensive research
when we obtained a permit for North Springs to backpump into the Conservation
Area. There is a lot of water quality
data that was done eight or nine years ago when we obtained those permits.
EIGHTH ORDER OF BUSINESS Approval of Invoices
On MOTION by Mr. Churchill seconded by
Mr. Miller with all in favor the invoices were approved.
Meeting adjourned at 5:05 p.m.
Clint Churchill Robert
Fennell
Secretary President