MINUTES OF MEETING

CORAL SPRINGS

IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT

 

            The regular meeting of the Board of Supervisors of the Coral Springs Improvement District was held on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 at 4:00 p.m. at the District Office, 10300 NW 11th Manor, Coral Springs, Florida.

 

            Present and constituting a quorum were:

 

            Bob Fennell                                                President

            William J. Eissler                                         Vice President

            Glen Hanks                                                Secretary

           

            Also present were:

 

            John Petty                                                  Manager

            Dennis Lyles                                               Attorney

            John McKune                                             Engineer

            Doug Hyche                                               District Staff

            Jean Rugg                                                   Severn Trent Services

            Janice Moen Larned                                   Severn Trent Services

            Cedo DaSilva                                             Ch2M-Hill

            Jane Early                                                   Ch2M-Hill

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS                         Roll Call

Mr. Fennell called the meeting to order and Mr. Petty called the roll. 

 

SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS                    Organizational Matters

A.                 Acceptance of Resignation of Mr. Eissler

B.                 Appointment of Supervisor to Fill the Unexpired Term of Office (6/2007)

C.                 Oath of Office of Newly Appointed Supervisor

D.                Election of Officers

            Mr. Fennell asked if anyone was present who was interested in the position.  Not hearing any, this item was tabled until after staff reports.

 

THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS                       Approval of the Minutes of the May 15, 2006 Meeting

            Mr. Fennell stated each Board member received a copy of the May 15, 2006 minutes and requested any additions, corrections or deletions.

            Mr. Hanks stated on the bottom of page nine and top of page 10, I asked questions rather than made statements.  On the bottom of page 12, the sentence “surveyors usually charge $12,000” should be deleted.

 

On MOTION by Mr. Eissler seconded by Mr. Hanks with all in favor the minutes of the May 15, 2006 meeting were approved as amended.

 

FOURTH ORDER OF BUSINESS                    Hurricane Debris Removal and Canal Bank Restoration Status

            Mr. Petty stated our contractor submitted his first invoice, which we paid and submitted to NRCS.  We are hopeful to see the money in a short period of time.  We will then be able to tell you what the rest of the fee return will be and the timeliness.

            Mr. McKune stated the work is almost complete.  We are in the process of some final walkthroughs.  NRCS sent a representative last week and they are pleased with the job.  The representative called his supervisor in Gainesville from the boat to tell him it looked like there was never a hurricane.

            Mr. Eissler stated I agree.

            Mr. Fennell stated it actually looks better than before the hurricane.

            Mr. McKune stated they exceeded our expectations both with their speed and quality of work.

            Mr. Fennell asked were there any comments from the city?

            Mr. Petty responded none from our government associates.  We received positive responses from the residents and relatively few from those who wanted to get their irrigation system repaired.  Generally speaking, the response has been powerful and positive on the cleanup efforts.  We have not received any accolades from the city for our sister districts.

            Mr. Hanks asked have you spoken to the new commission?

            Mr. Fennell responded yes, after they were elected as I was accepting the award for the waterway cleanup.  It went fairly well.  I feel we are in good shape.  However, I have not heard any details about a common tree definition.  I guess we will have to make our own definition.

            Mr. Hanks stated I spoke with an Arborist who is familiar with assessing the quality of trees.  He had some projects in Palm Beach County related to damaged trees on canals and lakes from Hurricane Francis.  He has considerable experience looking at storm damaged trees.  I spoke with him at length today, bringing him up to speed as to where we are as a District.  I explained to him we just completed a major cleanup activity and we are looking at developing a policy to reduce or minimize our future exposure on storms.  I requested he prepare a proposal on some representative sections of our canal system and make a presentation to the Board.

            Mr. Fennell asked how much will he charge us?

            Mr. Hanks responded he estimated an hourly rate not to exceed $500.

            Mr. Eissler asked hourly or total?

            Mr. Hanks responded total.  I have a copy of his contract.

            Mr. Eissler asked did you receive a copy of the booklet from the City of Coral Springs regarding trees?

            Mr. Hanks responded yes.

            Mr. Fennell stated they are talking about trees in front of the house.

            Mr. Eissler stated they are all good trees.

            Mr. Fennell asked has he started this work yet?

            Mr. Hanks responded no. 

            Mr. Fennell asked do we need to do anything if the contract is under $3,000?

            Mr. Petty responded if it is under $4,000 we can award based on the Board’s direction.  Anything above $4,000, we should go out for bids.  If it is part of a consultant’s contract, we will ask for it to be part of the engineer’s contract as a subcontractor.  We will also ask our engineer to complete a study to see if this is something they can work with, unless Mr. Lyles sees a problem.

            Mr. Lyles stated no.

            Mr. Petty stated for $500, we can do this in-house with direction from the Board.

            Mr. Hanks stated I did not feel comfortable having him walk the canals and spend several hours of his professional time without offering to reimburse him.

            Mr. Fennell stated I do not have a problem with this.

 

On MOTION by Mr. Fennell seconded by Mr. Eissler with all in favor the proposal with Sutton Consulting Arborist, Inc. in the not to exceed amount of $500 was approved.

 

            Mr. Hanks stated he is available for the July meeting.

            Mr. Petty stated we will make arrangements with him to come before the Board and walk through our facilities.

            Mr. Fennell asked did we pay the Arbor Tree and Land bill?

            Mr. Petty responded yes.

            Mr. Fennell stated we do not have $1,000,000 in our checking account.

            Mr. Petty stated according to your financial statements, you have $1,800,000 as of May 31st.  This amount is now slightly higher.  We are making payment to them out of our general funds.  The first bill from Arbor Tree and Land was $1,000,000.  We should be receiving another bill for $800,000.  We feel there is enough cashflow to handle the next payment.  If we need additional funds, we can go into the Water and Sewer account and do a transfer from this fund to the General Fund in order to borrow the money.  I will defer to Ms. Larned, if you have any questions.

            Mr. Fennell stated the bottom line is we are spending $1,000,000 and will have to assess the residents.

            Mr. Petty stated we are going to ask you to assess the residents $800,000 to bring the account back to $1,000,000 so we have the funds in case there is another storm.

            Mr. Fennell stated I assume we are going to be discussing the results of the hydraulic study of the systems.

            Mr. McKune stated we were going to discuss this item under item seven.

            Mr. Fennell stated this ties into hurricane debris removal.  We need to decide what to do next.  We hardly received any rain but we had some wind.  We need to see what happens if we receive 10 to 15 inches of rain after we remove all the trees.

            Mr. Hanks stated if we had rain with the storm, we would have had more trees come down due to the soil getting saturated.

            Mr. Petty stated as the water table rises, the trees become unstable.

 

FIFTH ORDER OF BUSINESS                         Distribution of Proposed General Fund and Water and Sewer Fund Budgets for Fiscal Year 2007 and Consideration of Resolution 2006-2 Approving the Budget and Setting the Public Hearing

            Mr. Petty stated the Board did not receive the Water and Sewer Fund Budget, only the General Fund Budget.  Resolution 2006-2 by title is:

“A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE DISTRICT’S PROPOSED GENERAL FUND BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2007 AND SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING THEREON PURSUANT TO FLORIDA LAW”

 

            The public hearing will be held on August 27, 2006 at 4:00 P.M. at this location.  This will start the process.  We will be making changes to this budget as we go through the process over the next 60 days until the public hearing.  We will take comments at that time from the public and the Board will make their consideration.  Afterwards, you will set the budget to final form and adopt it.  We will then go through the assessment process at the public hearing to fix the assessments and put them on the roll.

            Mr. Hanks asked when is the deadline to have the assessments into the Property Appraiser?

            Mr. Petty responded the first week in August.  You probably have two weeks to play with.

            Mr. Hanks asked when do we set the actual rates?

            Mr. Petty responded you will adopt the budget first, which will set the rate we will input into the resolution.  You will then adopt the resolution setting the assessment to be put on the roll.

            Mr. Hanks asked if we are having the public hearing on the General Fund Budget on August 27th, how will we be able to approve the budget setting the assessment and submit to the Property Appraiser on August 1st?

            Mr. Petty responded we will provide them a preliminary budget to get us through the TRIM process and finalize immediately after our meeting. 

            Mr. Lyles stated we have additional flexibility because we are not bound by the Chapter 190 budget processes.  Therefore, we do not have the 60 day notice period.  We have to publish the notice of the public hearing on final adoption of the budget once a week for two consecutive weeks.  The second instance has to be at least seven days ahead of time.  We could schedule the public hearing for July under our Special Act rather than waiting until August.  Then you have time to deal with the Property Appraiser and Tax Collector.

            Mr. Hanks asked when do we need to adopt the Water and Sewer Budget?

            Mr. Petty responded before the end of the fiscal year.

            Mr. Hanks asked when is the end of the fiscal year?

            Ms. Larned responded on September 30th.

            Mr. Fennell stated we should hold the public hearing in July.

            Mr. Hanks asked is staff prepared to proceed?

            Mr. Petty responded with counsel’s permission, we would be glad to consider July, with a date of the Board’s choosing.  We will schedule the public hearing for the next regularly scheduled meeting in July.

            Mr. Hanks stated the second week of advertising falls within a holiday.

            Mr. Lyles stated it does not affect it.  However, I am available on July 24th if the Board wishes to move the meeting.

 

On MOTION by Mr. Fennell seconded by Mr. Hanks with all in favor moving the July 17, 2006 meeting to July 24, 2006 at 4:00 P.M. at the District Offices, 10300 NW 11th Manor, Coral Springs, Florida was approved.

 

            Mr. Lyles stated at this time, the Board needs to consider a resolution adopting the proposed budget and setting the public hearing for July 24, 2006 at 4:00 P.M. at this location.

 

On MOTION by Mr. Fennell seconded by Mr. Hanks with all in favor Resolution 2006-2 Approving the General Fund Budget and Setting the Public Hearing for July 24, 2006 at 4:00 P.M. at the District Offices, 10300 NW 11th Manor, Coral Springs, Florida was adopted.

 

            Mr. Petty stated the budget you are being presented with is the proposed budget.  It is called the Manager’s Budget because direction typically comes from the accounting and manager’s office.  The philosophy comes from Ms. Larned as Treasury Director.  We defer to her for long term policies. 

            Mr. Fennell stated we are going to get our reserves back to $850,000.  To do so, we are going to have to increase assessments. 

            Mr. Petty stated from $91.38 to $158.50.

            Mr. Eissler stated I thought the assessment was always in the $80 range.

            Mr. Petty stated the year before it was $82.04 and last year it increased to $91.38.

            Mr. Fennell stated for the catastrophe we just went through, this amount is accurate.

            Mr. Eissler stated the residents will not even notice.

            Mr. Fennell stated we have a good reason to increase the assessment.

            Mr. Petty stated we have had assessments in the thousands.  The Manager’s Budget proposes this as a one year issue.  There are several projects before this District.  We think it is reasonable for you to allocate such funds for such issues. 

            Mr. Hanks asked would we be looking at some point in the future if there is an absence of cash for the assessment to decrease?

            Mr. Petty responded no.  There is a predominance of contracts ahead of you.  You have the healthy tree removal issue, which we expect to be around $1,000,000 plus; re-landscape this site to buffer us at a cost of well over $1,000,000 and refurbish your reserve account to get it back up to $1,000,000.  We feel this is the highest priority, which is why it is in this year’s budget.  However, next year or the following year under the hydraulic profiling, we expect to bring up other projects as well.  We do not see this assessment going down in the foreseeable future, probably for the next five years for sure.  You may have other conditions where you may consider financing to cover other projects you bring in as a priority.  Hurricane Wilma brought many things to our attention. 

            Mr. Fennell stated at the next meeting, I would like for you to provide us with a capital spending plan.  We have a budget but it does not reflect what we are going to do for capital spending.  Let’s talk about the plans you have, time frame, money and expenditures for the next five years.  We have been doing this mostly for water and sewer.  We are not going to approve these projects, but have an understanding going forward of what we think it is going to be.  Obviously tree removal should be on the list.  Now the question is why we had the trees there in the first place.  Part of the reason was because we were trying to create buffers.  We will see what the hydraulic study brings us.  It may either say nothing or indicate we have more issues than we intended.  Commensurate with the July meeting, we need to have a Capital Improvement Budget.  I am looking for a Gant Chart, which is a simple line mechanics chart with a time frame. 

            Mr. Petty stated we can do one.

            Mr. Fennell stated page three shows an Adjusted Fund Balance of $1,400,000 but we actually have $1,800,000.  Correct?

            Mr. Petty responded as of May 31st. 

            Mr. Fennell stated we spent $1,000,000 and we are now down to $800,000.

            Mr. Petty stated you committed $1,000,000.

            Ms. Larned stated the bill has not yet been presented.

            Mr. Petty stated Mr. Fennell is referring to the first draw on the contract.  Keep in mind, this is a working paper.  We are trying to project out for budget purposes what carry forward we can use as a revenue source for your consideration in next year’s proposed budget.  In this calculation you are not seeing $1,000,000.  What you are seeing is $300,000 less, which is our share after we get reimbursed by NRCS.  This is a presentation of what we think is a reliable expectation of the funds in the bank we can carry forward to use as revenues to offset any projects we have in next year’s budget.  Ms. Larned and I spent at least an hour and a half going over the same item with the Accounting Department.  It is subject to some interpretation.  We feel this presents a fairly reliable presentation to the Board for consideration.

            Mr. Fennell stated I see a line item for pump station replacement engines.

            Mr. Petty stated we will be discussing this item later in the meeting but I can tell you we are not satisfied with our pump station situation.  We will ask the Board to authorize the engineer to do an evaluation.  The reason why we are not happy is because there was a contract a year and a half ago to re-do five pumps and motors at a cost of $440,000.  The money has been held, although the contract was awarded because the contractor provided one motor in the past year and a half.  We spoke with Mr. Lyles office about our dissatisfaction.  From our experience, it is best to give the contract to the attorney and direct him to remit the letter to the contractor stating we find them in default of the contract.  In our opinion, the contract is not responsive and we are asking the attorney for advice.  Our engineer was not a party to the issue as it was performed by on-site staff, mainly Mr. Roger Moore.  I prefer to have CH2M-Hill involved since they built the first units in Coral Springs and we rely on them a great deal for their design work.  I would like an evaluation from them on why we are even doing this.  The only problem I know of from staff is we have a faulty water pump.

            Mr. Fennell stated we replaced the pumps four or five years ago.  This contract is for replacing the engines.  In fact we put an extra pump and engine into each one.  Then we heard the motors were going bad and we had to replace them.

            Mr. Petty stated the motors were old and getting to the point where the cost for repair and maintenance was getting so high you wanted to consider replacing them.  A contract was awarded but the contractor has not been responsive after a year and a half.  One motor was delivered but has not been installed.  We will have the engineers evaluate the current condition and maintainability of the pumps.  You may be able to save $400,000 or continue the contract with a modified motor before the next year and a half elapses.  I would like the Board to have the ability to say with confidence the pump station is 110% ready for hurricane season.  In case we keep the contract, there is $452,045 set aside which is the contract amount.  The reserve for the first quarter option is standard operating procedure since all of our revenue comes from the Property Appraiser.  However, this money does not start coming in until January.  Therefore, we have a Reserve Fund for the first three months.  Available reserves to be applied is $122,977.

            Mr. Fennell asked what are available reserves?

            Mr. Petty responded these are projected amounts off of the $1,400,000.  This is a cost from your reserves. 

            Ms. Larned stated it is what we think was leftover from last year.  We have not completed the audit, even though we are working off of $1,400,000.  According to the financial statements, it appears we are getting less revenues than expenditures.  The accountant is estimating it out for the rest of the year.  If all goes well, this is the number we plug in to true-up at the end of the year to close the books and have $250,000 leftover.

            Mr. Fennell asked are we spending this money this year?

            Ms. Larned responded yes.  It is tied into next year’s budget planning.  We bring this number forward to be used during this current fiscal year.

            Mr. Hanks stated this is hopefully a low estimate of our carry forward.

            Ms. Larned stated correct.

            Mr. Petty stated $251,000 is a revenue source in this year’s budget.  The number could change dramatically if we initiate programs before the end of the year.  We have time.  The bottom line is you will have more projects done this year and less carry forward for projects next year.  The total should be the same.  I would not carry forward the projects to next year.  We may be able to get to some of these projects before the end of the fiscal year.

            Mr. Hanks stated we have to be careful with the cashflow.  I would like to have more in reserves.

            Mr. Fennell stated we had $1,400,000 as of last September.  The report last month indicated $1,800,000 in excess revenues.

            Ms. Larned stated this amount is in the monthly financial statement for the projected through May 31, 2006.

            Mr. Fennell stated some of this is committed money.

            Ms. Larned stated correct.

            Mr. Fennell stated even though we did not terminate the contract, the $450,000 is part of the committed money. 

            Mr. Petty stated we currently stand in a good financial state.  We do not expect to run into problems, even after paying all the monies due under this current contract for cleanup.

            Ms. Larned stated what you are seeing are just the revenues and expenditures.  You do not see the activity for the reserves.  You are basically asking what is going in and out of your reserves.  There is an extra schedule in your budget for planning purposes to show what has been designated for certain items.

            Mr. Fennell stated the piece we are missing is the cashflow sheet.

            Mr. Petty stated the items on page one as well as some other control and oversight functions will be brought to you on October 1st on the transaction overlay.  The transaction overlay gives us some protection since we have a single accountant in case an accident, illness or move by the employee occurs; the District is not affected.  This document gives you daily cashflow reports.  Whenever there is a posting, it becomes available and internet based. 

            Mr. Fennell stated we have not needed this up until now.  However, we need it now with the expenditures we have for capital expenses.

            Mr. Eissler stated I agree.

            Mr. Hanks asked are the assessments calculated on a per lot basis for the commercial properties?

            Mr. Petty responded per unit, with $11,000 units calculated.  The commercial properties are converted on a per acre basis.

            Mr. Hanks asked what about the assessment for EMS?

            Mr. Petty responded it is on a per unit type basis based on the call rates of single family.  For purposes of figuring out what it is going to cost for the number of units, we use 11,113 homes to show what the bill will go up by.  Some will pay less and others will pay more. 

            Mr. Fennell asked will you have a cashflow sheet for us at the next meeting?

            Mr. Petty responded no.  This will be implemented on October 1st.  At the end of the first month, you will have some preliminary numbers.  By the third month of the new fiscal year you will have indications of your spending levels and program efficiencies. 

            Mr. Fennell asked who is generating this document?

            Mr. Petty responded Severn Trent.

            Mr. Fennell asked where will it be paid from?

            Mr. Petty responded in a line item, we allocated $5,000 under the General Fund.

            Ms. Larned stated the transaction overlay is half way down through the expenditure listing for administration.  There is a check and balance system to have a three way match between the Purchase Order, receipt of the goods and the invoice.  It is internally controlled.  When the field location receives the goods, they will enter it onto the internet and submit to the Accounting Department.  The information from the internet is posted to the General Ledger.

            Mr. Fennell asked is our current system capable of doing this?

            Ms. Larned responded we have to do some work on it.  We will get to this item later in the budget.

            Mr. Petty stated generally speaking, this is a double entry system, which does not have to be compatible with other software.  It can be independent.  There are two checks.  Let’s say for management purposes, I wrote a Purchase Order for $25,000.  The accountant is not going to book it until the vendor sends an invoice and they are satisfied with the contract conditions.  However, for purposes of planning and management, as soon as you get approval to spend the money, you need to know the money is gone for your next consideration of a project.  This is cashflow management.  If you want to see what your cashflow is, you look up the transaction overlay on the website to see what its condition is.  If you are trying to find out your accounting status, you look on the financial monthly reports supplied with the agendas.  There are two different systems, one for management purposes, which we refer to as the cashflow, which will be accomplished by the transaction overlay and the other is the financial accounting, which satisfies the Auditor General for the State of Florida.

            Mr. Fennell asked what does the electronic document system do?

            Mr. Petty responded it scans all our blueprint plans through a large format scanner, which is on-site and functioning.  It will be located in the operations building.  We will start loading all our as-built drawings and have them on a server, which Mr. Daly will maintain.  The database is yours but Severn Trent will supply the optical character recognition and large scale scanner.

            Mr. Fennell asked what type of machine?

            Mr. Petty responded an AS400 or its successor.  Later in this budget, we are going to ask you consider a successor.

            Mr. Fennell asked why is our computer time down to zero?

            Mr. Petty responded because later on we are going to talk to you about a successor to the AS400.  We feel you should own it rather than renting.  The intent is to make you as independent as possible.  As a leader among your sister districts, we feel this puts you in a better position to handle your business.

            Ms. Larned stated this is supported by the internal audit report presented at the last meeting.

            Mr. Fennell asked does this have to do with the $50,000 spent for capital purchases?

            Mr. Petty responded yes.  We believe $50,000 is the General Fund’s fair share of purchase of a new breed of AS400, which is eight times faster than the existing machine.  We are looking for at least a terabyte of storage.  It turns out we can get approximately seven terabytes.  The reason why we are considering a fairly large one is because of the blueprints and drawings.

            Mr. Hanks asked is this system compatible with what the city has for their information?

            Mr. Petty responded it is non-proprietary.  The document management system stores the documents in a number of different formats, the most standard which is PDF.  It should be standard with 99.9% of any program out there.

            Mr. Hanks asked do we have documents to scan?

            Mr. Petty responded you have warehouses all over the city full of documents to scan.  Ms. Rugg has been a genius to be able to retain the information about where these files are located.  However, she has been running three different document management systems and has come up with what we think is the best program we can run on-site.  You know it by the name it was saved by but it uses artificial intelligence to find the document by search criteria similar to Google.

            Mr. Fennell asked will this also apply to the Water and Sewer Fund?

            Mr. Petty responded the transaction overlay is done on a transaction estimate.  For some of these items, we try to do a 50/50 split between utility billing and normal accounting functions.

            The next item is under Field Operations on page two.  As discussed during the audit, we thought it was in the District’s best interest for all shared employees to be owned by CSID.  The slight increase in your General Fund is complete ownership of Mr. Randy Frederick who has been handling your water management facilities for almost 30 years, along with Mr. Nick Schooley, his predecessor.  Mr. Hyche is now bound to CSID solely.

            Mr. Fennell stated this is a good thing.

            Mr. Petty stated Net Pension Expense increased because our labor costs increased with full allocation to CSID but also because we are recommending the Florida State Pension Plan for our employees.  It is competitive with everyone else out there since we are competing with a labor market dwindling faster than I care to speak to at this meeting.  All our competitors offer this to their employees.  We investigated it but the increase was not dramatic at this time.

            Mr. Fennell stated we revised our pension plan five or six years ago.

            Mr. Eissler stated it is a big jump. 

            Mr. Petty stated Mr. Bill Joyce took with him $90,000 when he retired.  This is what he has for his lifetime award. The money market issue has gone up and down.  My pension program was similar in fashion and I lost capital for a couple of years.  You have people who put in a lifetime to this District.  We are seeing quite a few of them cycling through the system.  They are leaving with less than what you know they need.  However, to maintain a lifestyle here, they have to move.

            Mr. Fennell asked is this like a 401K?

            Mr. Petty responded it is a self directed 401K.

            Mr. Eissler stated it is probably hard to get everyone to join.

            Mr. Petty stated the young guys want the cash because they are trying to pay for their lifestyle.  We are going to increasingly be hit with this as we are what is considered to be an upscale community in Broward County, where the average price of a new home is $600,000 and a used home is close to $400,000.  These people cannot afford to live nearby.  If we are going to compete, we feel it is essential to have these tools to do so.

            Mr. Eissler stated I agree.

            Ms. Larned stated part of what the Florida State Program offers is a health subsidy, once they reach retirement age.  This is a very large attraction of the program because in most cases this becomes your biggest expense.  Consequently this is a subsidy program underwritten by the state through the funding they achieved over the last few years so it is fully vested and is a nice benefit for the employees.

            Mr. Fennell stated I assume this requires a vote of the Board.

            Mr. Petty stated through the budget process.  When the application comes in the first month we will ask you to approve it.  However, you can approve it through the budget process.

            Mr. Eissler stated to recruit, hire and maintain good employees you have to be competitive. 

            Mr. Petty stated we do.  Our pay is not bad.  We like to think our quality of life is exceptional and we are different.  We let someone work in any area that he/she can excel in and we have diversity.  In some city programs you will work at the same job from the day you walk in to the day you die.  We have this to help us compete so our pay is typically close but our benefit program is where we flounder.  We lost personnel, mainly qualified operators at the water and wastewater plant over the last year due to this issue.  Once they get their licenses, they feel they can do better on benefits with other companies. 

            Mr. Hanks asked do we pay to train them?

            Mr. Petty responded yes, however this is a minimal investment for us.  We do this hoping they stay.  We cannot get commitment for a year or two worth of service because the dollars are not there.

            Ms. Larned stated it is not just a recruitment tool; it is also a retention tool.

            Mr. Hanks stated good point.  I am looking for a sheet with current benefits.

            Mr. Petty stated we have an example we can bring to the next meeting.  We obtained information from the Florida State Pension on their current program. 

            Mr. Fennell asked is this a defined benefit?

            Ms. Larned responded it is a defined contribution.

            Mr. Petty stated it took us a long time to admit openly this was considered civil service work.  We had several lawsuits filed over our 25 plus years from the labor pool.  We tried to keep the mentality of business, not bureaucracy.  We find most of the staff is willing to do so.  In a practical conversation, it is getting difficult to motivate people when they say, “I do not mind treating this as a business, giving it my full effort, giving 110%, coming in when the storms hit and making sure everything functions, but I have to make at least as much as the guy who is working at 70%”, which is the typical bureaucrat.  We have people with motivation but we want to be able to keep them here and hire their replacements when it is time for them to go.  We can certainly show this example and bring it to the next meeting.

            Mr. Hanks stated just because it is in the budget does not mean we have to adopt or accept it later.

            Mr. Petty stated it is only for consideration right now.  As you are owners of the personnel and will be paying the costs, you will be seeing the revenue generated from your ability to take employees and work them in other Districts.  They will also be paying their fair share.

            Mr. Fennell asked why did health insurance decrease?

            Mr. Petty responded due to the age of our personnel.

            Mr. Eissler asked because they are younger?

            Mr. Petty responded yes.  We are going through a cycle where the oldest employee is Mr. George Guck.  We used to have four employees who were here 30 years and longer.  Mr. Jan Zilmer keeps track of this constantly.

            Mr. Eissler stated he is doing a good job.

            Mr. Fennell stated workers compensation insurance is increasing.  Another large increase was in Repairs and Maintenance.

            Mr. Petty stated Field Operation Services went to zero because you are getting this service with existing staff and we see no reason to add to this line item.  This line item was for Mr. Moore or his assistant.  As an ex-operator, I have operational experience so there is no reason to hire anyone.  We told you this time you will know exactly what you received from Severn Trent and what we were going to do for you.  For Repairs and Maintenance, some items were incorrectly allocated to Capital Outlay, which should be under Repairs and Maintenance.  We removed some of Mr. Moore’s items because we do not believe they made sense.  There were some items with life spans of 75 years but we will not get 1.75% of their value today.  We are bringing back the divers. 

            Culvert Inspection and Cleaning was budgeted at $100,000, which is high.  We used to spend $35,000 a year, but when we went out for bids we obtained a bid for $80,000.  It turns out the issue is OSHA started watching what these companies were doing and they now are required to have three divers in the water.

            Mr. Hanks stated Shenandoah had a big problem this past year with some divers.  Is there a company who provides cameras?

            Mr. Petty responded yes.  We can use the cameras to find the silt, but the divers are there to clean them.

            Mr. Hanks asked do we own these culverts or are they owned by Broward County?

            Mr. Petty responded they are owned by us because we paid for them out of bond funds.  We are not inspecting culverts installed by other entities.  This does not include the cost of inspecting secondary culverts.

            Mr. Hanks stated you have a right-of-way for Riverside Drive, which is a county road.  If there is a culvert underneath Riverside Drive, who has the ownership and maintenance responsibilities?

            Mr. Petty responded the District.  Typically we install culverts.  If the county expanded them due to four lanes, they have to come to us before we allow it. 

            Mr. Hanks stated we have a license from them for this right-of-way for our stormwater crossing.

            Mr. Petty stated we have a primary license since we were there first.

            Mr. Lyles stated those are right-of-way and utility easements.  We are the permittee by SFWMD.  It is our system.

            Mr. Hanks asked has anyone checked with Broward County to make sure they are not paying for the same service?

            Mr. Petty responded yes.  We are ahead of everyone else when it comes to inspecting these pipes.  Other entities use our format.  We are first and foremost the best drainage entity in South Florida if not the State of Florida.

            Mr. Fennell asked are you proposing we delete this item from the budget?

            Mr. Petty responded we recommend you set aside monies for budget purposes if we are doing culvert inspections and cleanouts.  This is a reasonable amount of money to spend, with all the pipes we have.  We spoke to our engineers about this and they are recommending it as well.

            Mr. Fennell stated there is a line item for roof replacement.

            Mr. Petty responded you have seen this roof item before but we have not done it yet.

            Mr. Fennell asked did we approve it?

            Mr. Petty responded yes.

            Ms. Larned stated you have been building up reserves.  I started looking at a number of these items in the budget and it did not make sense to me.  You had Capital Outlay, Repairs and Maintenance and a Reserve.  We looked at the useful life of some of these assets and asked ourselves whether it was an annual expense that needed to be in the O&M portion of the reserves.  When it becomes time to do the work, we will have the funds.  The reserves can be used for hurricane expenditures or at the Board’s pleasure.  We tried to clean up these items and simplify it.  We had lengthy discussions about it.

            Mr. Petty stated Contingencies increased based on what I feel is an accurate projection of 95% but this is only a projection.  As a conservative Budget Manager we will ask you to hold 5% in Contingencies.  We already discussed Reserves, which is the next big number.  We have time to work on this budget and make changes and amendments as you see fit.  We expect to distribute the Water and Sewer Budget at the next meeting. 

            Mr. Fennell stated the difference is in Budget Reserves.

            Ms. Larned stated we deleted some items.  We put adequate funds into Culvert Cleaning.  There were other items for $1,500 and $3,400, which we felt were small items and could come out of Repairs and Maintenance.

            Mr. Fennell stated this is an operating budget; not a Capital Expense Budget.

            Mr. Petty stated there is no debt at this time but there are capital expenses.  We were able to handle this with our current budgeting program.  We do not have to go outside for financing at this time.  We do not see it unless the time frame for some of the five year capital program items we bring you in the next version gets accelerated.  We think you have time to handle one priority per year, with the first one to bring back up the reserves.  There is one exception, which is the healthy tree removal situation.  As we know from Hurricane Wilma, there is a direct threat that trees within our right-of-way are a concern.  Whether we do it this year or next year is up to the Board’s discretion.  However, if we did this in an accelerated program, we would probably talk to the Bo