MINUTES OF MEETING

CORAL SPRINGS

IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT

 

            The regular meeting of the Board of Supervisors of the Coral Springs Improvement District was held on Monday, October 16, 2006 at 4:00 p.m. at the District Office, 10300 NW 11th Manor, Coral Springs, Florida.

 

            Present and constituting a quorum were:

 

            Bob Fennell                                                President

            Glen Hanks                                                Vice President

            Sharon Zich                                                Secretary

           

            Also present were:

 

            John Petty                                                  Manager

            Dennis Lyles                                               Attorney

            John McKune                                             Engineer

            Cedo DaSilva                                             CH2M-Hill

            Jane Early                                                   CH2M-Hill

            Isabelo Rodriguez                                       CH2M-Hill

            Daniel Bohorguez                                       CH2M-Hill

            Ilana Rabone                                              Severn Trent Services

            Janice Moen Larned                                   Severn Trent Services

            Brenda Schurtz                                           Severn Trent Services

            Randy Fredericks                                       Field Supervisor

            Doug Hyche                                               District Staff

            Mark Westfall                                            City of Coral Springs

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS                         Roll Call

Mr. Fennell called the meeting to order and Mr. Petty called the roll. 

 

SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS                    Approval of the Minutes of the September 18, 2006 Meeting

            Mr. Fennell stated each Board member received a copy of the September 18, 2006 minutes and requested any additions, corrections or deletions.

            Mr. Hanks stated on page four in the third line down, I was incorrectly identified.

            Ms. Rabone stated I will check the tape.

 

On MOTION by Mr. Fennell seconded by Mr. Hanks with all in favor the minutes of the September 18, 2006 meeting were approved as amended.

 

THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS                       Consideration of Resolutions

A.                 Resolution 2007-1 Designating John Petty as Assistant Treasurer

            Mr. Fennell asked who is Treasurer?

            Mr. Petty responded Ms. Janice Larned is Treasurer.  Mr. Ed Goscicki is currently Assistant Treasurer but is no longer involved in the District.  This is a housekeeping matter.

 

On MOTION by Mr. Hanks seconded by Mr. Fennell with all in favor Resolution 2007-1 Designating John Petty as Assistant Treasurer was adopted.

 

            Mr. Hanks asked is this resolution numbered 2007-1 due to the new fiscal year?

            Mr. Petty responded yes.

B.                 Resolution 2007-2 Designating Signatories

            Mr. Petty stated we request deletion of this resolution from consideration as it is redundant.  We no longer need it.

 

FOURTH ORDER OF BUSINESS                    Consideration of Chemical Bids for Aquatic Weed Control

            Mr. Petty stated we will place this item on hold as we are re-bidding due to a discrepancy in the bids.

 

FIFTH ORDER OF BUSINESS                         Consideration of Selection of Capital Improvement Coordinator

            Mr. Petty stated the Board received the advertisement for bid and proposal from McKune & Associates.  During the budget process, we mentioned hiring a Capital Improvement Coordinator to act as our liaison in order to keep our engineering costs in line.  They would work out of the percentage points the engineer typically gets.  We believe we will obtain savings in this regard.  The Capital Improvement Coordinator will receive the majority of their fees from this.  We will also use them as an engineer for some of the on-site jobs, in particular the SFWMD best management practices.  We already budgeted for this item and utilized Mr. Moore in this regard.  In the advertisement, we asked for an experienced engineer who had knowledge of this District and its utility and drainage systems.  Mr. McKune responded as we hoped he would.

            Mr. Fennell asked was this put out for bid?

            Mr. Petty responded yes, we did this as recommended by counsel.

            Mr. Fennell asked did anyone else respond?

            Mr. Petty responded no.

            Mr. Hanks asked was this based on the criteria in section five?

            Mr. Fennell stated the first qualification is a tricky. 

            Mr. Hanks stated this is an exclusive specification

            Mr. Petty stated for a capital improvement, we thought we were being lenient.  We could have asked for 30 years experience, which Mr. McKune has.

            Mr. Lyles stated usually where you require special expertise, you indicate just what you said or put “or equivalent” and give someone an opportunity to show an equivalent level of experience.

            Mr. Petty stated we were looking for very specific knowledge a Capital Improvement Coordinator would have in knowing enough about this particular system to provide us what we consider to be the safeguard and reliability of the 2% return, which is critical to them making the money on this project.  Saving us 2% by their specific knowledge of these facilities, is what makes this work.  As any competent engineer knows, trying to learn what is here can take years.  This is what I meant by “specific knowledge” and the way we wrote these specific requirements.

            Mr. Lyles stated this is out of the ordinary when it comes to CCNA notices and processing an RFQ.  Therefore, there is some exposure.  If you want to proceed, it is up to the Board.  However, it is incumbent upon me to at least point out it is unusual and not something I have seen where you limit the experience to one particular capital project.  However, I understand the rationale for trying to save money.

            Mr. Petty stated keep in mind this is the Capital Improvement Coordinator and not a District Engineer.  We were doing it this way in an abundance of caution since this is a service related issue.  I think we have done a good job.

            Mr. Lyles stated I certainly agree with the manager this it is not the full scope of engineering services you are looking to find a qualified person to perform and therefore, a full and complete CCNA process in terms of the description and qualifications is called for. 

            Mr. Hanks stated I have reservations about how the advertisement was worded.

            Mr. Fennell stated advertise again and add the word “equivalent”.

            Mr. Petty asked can I have a definition or indication of what “equivalent” means?

            Mr. Fennell responded you have to be convinced they would in fact have equivalent experience to be able to do the job.

            Mr. Hanks stated we only had one respondent and it is too restrictive.  Mr. McKune has 35 years of experience, many years here with the District.  I do not know who else is out there.  Are we missing someone else out there who is well qualified just by the restrictive nature?  I like Mr. McKune and the work he does but I want to set an example for all districts.  I want to open this up as there are plenty of qualified and talented people out there.  I do not want to be so selective to where we are tailoring it to one individual.

            Mr. Fennell asked does Mr. McKune currently have a position here?

            Mr. Petty responded no.  Mr. McKune retired from CH2M-Hill and we have a new Project Manager here this evening who will introduce himself under the Engineer’s Report.

            Mr. Hanks asked can we hire Mr. McKune through Severn Trent Services? 

            Mr. Fennell responded this not the hiring of Mr. McKune as a person but McKune & Associates.  I think we need to re-run the ad with the words “or equivalent”.  Do we need anything else?

            Mr. Lyles responded this is all you need.  This is a term you regularly see in requests for bids.  Sometimes we put this in our request for chemicals.  You can also use it to modify the experience you are looking for. 

            Mr. Hanks asked in the interim, is there a way we can retain the services of Mr. McKune so we have the coverage of the Capital Improvement Coordinator?

            Mr. Lyles responded you can appoint him to this position on an interim basis for a fee not to exceed $25,000.  This would remove any question about the CCNA process.  This is tricky because this is a management type of service not required to be bid in this way but on the other hand it has engineering components.  This is why staff wanted to do this in the right way and we are still trying to.  This threshold kicks in at $25,000.  Hiring Mr. McKune on an interim basis while we continue with the notice process, is an appropriate way to proceed.  This preserves your ability to look at other things.

 

On MOTION by Mr. Hanks seconded by Mr. Fennell with all in favor staff was authorized to re-advertise the request for Capital Improvement Coordinator qualifications with the inclusion of the words “or equivalent”.

 

            Mr. Fennell stated I understand there is a current need for management.  Is Mr. McKune currently working for us?

            Mr. Petty responded no.  At this time he is independent.

 

On MOTION by Mr. Hanks seconded by Mr. Fennell with all in favor the District Manager was authorized to retain the services of McKune & Associates on an interim basis at a cap for professional fees not to exceed $25,000.

 

SIXTH ORDER OF BUSINESS                        Consideration of Change Orders

A.        Change Order No. 1 with Intrastate Construction Corporation for Emergency Roof Repairs at Maintenance Building, Roto-Guard Building and Deep Injection Well Pump Station for a Net Increase of $78,920

            Mr. Petty stated we had leaks in these building during the rains over the summer and it was necessary for us to do roof repairs to stabilize it since we had facilities at risk.  At the deep injection well station we have expensive equipment.  If water damages any of those motor control cabinets we are in trouble.  We had a contractor who was able to obtain roofing materials at short notice.  As you may know, roofers are difficult to get right now.  We had the need to do an emergency change order as recommended by staff and our engineer.  They brought this item to management’s attention and management agrees.  We recommend approval to the Board.

            Mr. Fennell asked are the roof repairs complete?

            Mr. Petty responded yes.

            Mr. Hanks asked how many square feet of roof did we end up repairing?

            Mr. Petty responded the roof on two buildings had to be repaired.  They were patched after Hurricane Wilma but the patches did not hold.  Another patch job was not recommended. 

            Mr. Hanks asked are we talking about 10,000 square feet of roof?

            Mr. Hyche responded I do not know the exact square footage as I did not bring the invoice with me.  I can get the number for you.

            Mr. Fennell asked are these new roofs?

            Mr. Hyche responded yes.

            Mr. Hanks asked has anyone obtained a price comparison?

            Mr. Petty responded I am doing a tile job for NSID on the clubhouse which is not anywhere as near as the square footage here.  They are being charged $140,000.  By single family roof size, we have a job big enough to cover four single family homes.  The warehouse is a large building while the deep well station is only 1,000 square feet.  The roto-guard building is probably close to 4,000 square feet. 

            Mr. Hanks asked in order of magnitude, how much of a premium did we pay for the quick turnaround?

            Mr. Petty responded I think he gave us a good price.

            Mr. Hanks stated as long as it stays in good condition.  It is not a good price if we have to repair it next year.  Do we have a warranty?

            Mr. Petty responded the contractor is on-site for at least the next year.  We have a warranty.

            Mr. Hanks asked in writing?

            Mr. Petty responded the membranes and the paper have various warranties associated with them.  The warranty on workmanship and quality is one year.

            Mr. Hanks asked are there other buildings on the site with roofs in need of repair in the near future where it may be beneficial to the District to go out and put on a bid list?

            Mr. Petty responded the reason the roto-guard building was added was because water was leaking near the roto-guards.  The maintenance building had some damage.  The deep well building holds the high service pumps. 

            Mr. Hanks asked do you understand my concern of an emergency or immediate corrective action versus planning?

            Mr. Petty responded yes.  The water plant roof was re-roofed four months after Wilma.  We now have new roofs on 80% of our buildings.

            Mr. Hanks asked how old is the roof on this building?

            Mr. Petty responded three years old.

 

On MOTION by Ms. Zich seconded by Mr. Hanks with all in favor Change Order No. 1 with Intrastate Construction Corporation for Emergency Roof Repairs at Maintenance Building, Roto-Guard Building and Deep Injection Well Pump Station for a Net Increase of $78,920 was approved.

 

B.        Change Order No. 8 with Intrastate Construction Corporation for Water Treatment Plant Improvements to Well 5 for a Net Increase of $32,466.90

            Mr. McKune stated Well 5 is south of West Atlantic Boulevard and Well 4. 

            Mr. Hanks asked is Well 4 the one we received calls from the neighbor on?

            Mr. McKune responded yes.  Well 5 is around the corner from the small neighborhood park.  It was allowed to deteriorate simply because of being, “Out of sight, out of mind”.  We made some mechanical changes to it but this is largely an upgrade change of the control system and electrical panel.  We still need to do some re-grading around the site.  The raising of the slab was due to the potential flooding to get the heads above the 100 year flood elevation, which is now a requirement.  This well for all intents and purposes is new. 

            Mr. Hanks asked what about the interior casing?

            Mr. McKune responded the casing is not deteriorating.  However, we installed a new motor because it broke down.

            Mr. Hanks stated so we should not have any surprises.

            Mr. McKune stated it will work well with the proper maintenance.

 

On MOTION by Mr. Hanks seconded by Mr. Fennell with all in favor Change Order No. 8 with Intrastate Construction Corporation for Water Treatment Plant Improvements to Well 5 for a Net Increase of $32,466.90 was approved.

 

SEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS                  Hurricane Debris Removal and Canal Bank Restoration Status

            Mr. Petty stated this has become a standard item on our agendas.  I will defer to Mr. McKune on the status of the Phase 2 contracts for removal of nuisance trees from within the ROW.

            Mr. McKune stated Phase 1 is now complete.  This was for the removal of the hurricane damaged trees.  We received money from NRCS.  Phase 2 was designed and bid to remove the remaining trees.  Applications submitted to the city were scaled back to only removing the nuisance trees.  We then found out that ficus trees were no longer a nuisance and are now considered ornamentals.  All trees must now be removed by obtaining a permit from the city.  We contacted Stiles Corporation who applied to the City of Coral Springs for two permits. The first permit was for the removal of 175 ficus trees along the Auto Mall, east of University Drive.  The second permit was for the removal of invasive species towards the Sawgrass Expressway in Section 31.  This was a test to the city to allow them to respond in any manner to allow us to plan the remainder of the work.  We found out prior to the meeting today both of those permits were rejected by the city.  We do not have copies in hand and will probably receive those from Stiles Corporation tomorrow.  We now have a statement from the city rejecting the permits.

            Mr. Hanks stated Section 31 is behind Lakeview Professional Village and West Glen Annex.  There is a line of Brazilian Peppers.

            Mr. McKune stated there are also ficus and plum trees.

            Mr. Hanks stated those were not exotic evasive and were not listed on the recent species list.

            Mr. Fennell asked have you seen the reason for the rejection?

            Mr. McKune responded no.

            Mr. Fennell asked have you spoke to anyone about it?  Is there any rationale other than they decided these will not contribute to the flooding?

            Mr. Petty responded a representative from the City of Coral Springs is here. 

            Mr. Mark Westfall stated I am the individual who rejected the permits.  The rationale is aside from the fact there was mis-identification of some tree species, one of the trees could be covered under the nuisance tree permit.  The biggest problem hinged on the mitigation question.  City code requires mitigation or removal of non nuisance trees.  There was no mitigation. 

            Mr. Hanks asked has it been decided whether the trees are treated inch-for-inch for utilities?  Has this issue been resolved?

            Mr. Westfall responded no.  Currently trees are treated inch-for-inch.  If we have documentation CSID is considered to be a utility, I will be happy to revisit the matter.

            Mr. Hanks asked is this something we need our counsel to talk to your counsel on?

            Mr. Westfall responded probably.

            Mr. Lyles stated we are sitting in the middle of a utility plant.  I spoke to their counsel before and was under the impression we will be classified in that fashion.  I tried to keep the lines of communication open.  If we need to do more homework, we will do so as soon as possible.  Any other minor problems with the permit request, the contractor can clarify.

            Mr. Fennell stated the trees are on the CSID right-of-way.

            Mr. Lyles stated CSID property.

            Mr. Fennell asked are they in the canal right-of-way where water flows?

            Mr. Hanks responded CSID property refers to the CSID right-of-way.  This means we have title to the property and it is our property.

            Mr. Westfall stated it is difficult for me to identify exactly where the right-of-way is.  Obviously some of the trees are on the edge of the canal bank.  Others were 10’ to 12’ from the root.  I am assuming the trees are in the right-of-way.  We need to answer this question.

            Mr. Fennell asked do you know how the trees got there?

            Mr. Westfall responded some of them were ornamentals.

            Mr. Fennell asked does the city have a policy preventing people from planting into canal banks?

            Mr. Westfall responded we certainly do not encourage them.  The homeowners do not come to us every time they plant a tree on their property.  In past years when dealing with commercial property or residential, we most definitely point out they should not be planting in the right-of-way. 

            Mr. Fennell stated we are not sure who is in control of the trees.  If someone is giving permission to people to the homeowners to plant trees on CSID property, we want to see it strongly discouraged.  We also want the city to say, “Do not plant trees in the canal right-of-way”.  Do you think this is possible?

            Mr. Westfall responded I will take your comments back to the city.  When we receive a request from a developer, we make certain the trees are not planted in the right-of-way.  This may or may not have been the case in the past. 

            Mr. Fennell stated this is something we want to encourage because we do not want to see those trees there.  As you probably know, the trees in there are weak because as the water level rises it kills the roots and these trees do not stand a chance.  Are you familiar with Mr. Sutton’s presentation to us?

            Mr. Westfall responded I am familiar with it but have some reservations.

            Mr. Fennell asked has the city done a hydrologic study of the area?

            Mr. Westfall responded no. 

            Mr. Fennell asked do they have any rationale on what will happen if in fact the canals get blocked?  Has the city taken into account the drainage issues either for the canals or the streets in these decisions?

            Mr. Westfall stated we met with Mr. Petty on several occasions and we understand the concerns of the Board.  We are not disputing your right.  Our ordinance clearly gives the Drainage District the right to maintain the canal right-of-way.  However, this is not the issue here.  The issue is the question of mitigation.  We are not saying we are going to stop you from removing the trees. 

            Mr. Fennell stated if the permit is rejected, that is what is going on.

            Mr. Hanks stated it was rejected without mitigation.

            Mr. Westfall stated it was rejected because the requirements of the ordinance have not been fulfilled.  It was rejected with comments and you will receive the comment sheet along with the rejected permit.  It is not unusual for permits to be rejected several times in order for corrections to be made.

            Mr. Fennell asked does the city understand they are partially responsible for the drainage?

            Mr. Westfall responded I cannot speak for the city. 

            Mr. Fennell stated if they stop us from doing our job, they are responsible.  They are responsible for a series of permits for the street drainage and for insuring the drain areas are cleared and maintained.  If there is any flooding, it is the city’s responsibility.

            Mr. Westfall stated I cannot comment because I am a forester.

            Mr. Fennell stated trees were intentially planted there and were not supposed to be.  By an act of God or nature, they were planted in the wrong spot.  What is the rationale for mitigating?

            Mr. Westfall responded I discussed this with numerous developers who feel they are being punished because they did not plant the trees and now have to mitigate them.  They current policy does not spell out every detail as to rationale behind it.  The fact is there are trees on the property and we are requesting removal of them.  We are against the removal of the trees if the requirements of the code are met. 

            Mr. Fennell stated there is a mitigation issue.  We feel in many cases we do not have the right specification or approach for trees taking as much of the wind force as we expect our houses to.  Has the city done something about that?  What we need is a tree policy to beautify the city but also provide the same security we expect our trees to.

            Mr. Westfall stated the city’s tree subsidy program limits the number of trees eligible for subsidies in other cities as well as Broward County showing a higher degree of resistance to storms.  In addition, the species, proper structure, proper tree care and proper tree planting are all parts of the equation.  We also send out educational booklets to give homeowners the information they need on proper tree care and how to recognize the structure of a poorly structured tree.

            Mr. Fennell asked has the city revised their tree trimming policy?

            Mr. Westfall responded our tree trimming policy is out of Broward County.  It has never been any different.  A Broward County tree trimmers license is required for all contractors. 

            Mr. Fennell asked has there been a study done saying what we can expect in one class of trees in a category one storm?

            Mr. Westfall responded I did not know any such study was possible because there are too many factors involved.  It is not just the species.  This is a common misconception.  Everyone wants a list of the hurricane resistant trees.  There is far more involved such as the proper tree structure in a good quality tree as opposed to a poor quality tree.  We need to consider the quality of the tree, quality of the care over the lifetime of the tree as well as improper planting.  If you plant the tree too deep, it can fail.

            Mr. Fennell stated there must be some type of statistical result.  You do not need to have a particular tree but you can take an average.

            Mr. Hanks stated I have seen this list, which is a good list of trees well resistant to windstorms. 

            Mr. Westfall stated the University of Florida is doing a study on hurricane impacted areas throughout Florida.  They have a list for trees Florida wide.  All the trees on our list are on this list. 

            Mr. Fennell stated we lost a considerable amount of trees with the hurricane.  Our solution was not an engineering or arborist one but to spend some money and clean it up quicker next time.  This was a financial decision.  My house got hit two years by a row by trees.  I propose some type of study discussing types of plantings and hurricane resistant trees. 

            Mr. Westfall stated we changed our Landscape Ordinance to allow developers when building commercial properties to have cluster trees.  It has been shown time and again clustering trees can buffer each other and do better than individual trees.  We are currently reviewing a project where the parking island does not have to be every 10 parking spaces with one tree standing in the wind.  Instead the parking islands can be aggregated to allow for cluster plantings.  We have been making adjustments to the code.  When you have as many trees as we do, the likelihood of losing trees during hurricanes is going to be greater.

            Mr. Hanks stated there are going to be situations we not going to be able to control in Coral Springs.  We have limited top soil.  If we have a long duration hurricane with a great deal of rain, the surface roots will become dislodged and the trees are going to fall down.  With this last storm, you had branch breakage.  Part of this was probably due to the fact last year or the year before last we had Hurricanes Jeanne and Francis.  You had some removal of a tree protected by other trees now in an exposed location.  Your conditions are always changing.  I think Mr. Westfall and the City of Coral Springs have done a good job of identifying the best trees.  You can do a study in Pompano Beach for wind resistance but you have entirely different soil conditions out there.  Therefore, it is not going to be applicable to what we have.  You are going to have localized meteorological conditions, down drafts and micro bursts.  You can have a tree with the same species, care and size getting destroyed and 100 yards away another tree that has not been maintained stays up.  I think we are going about this the wrong way.  The city is being responsive in addressing the tree issue just as we are trying to be responsive in addressing our perceived risk with regards to the canal.

            Mr. Fennell stated I was looking not so much at the canal but at my house.  As I look at the damage done in Coral Springs from the last hurricane, the major damage was caused by trees.  Part of the reason is the tree coverage grew up.  We never had this problem before.  We also have not thought about it enough to bring about the conditions of having hurricane resistant trees as much as we have houses as well as having a beautiful city.

            Mr. Westfall stated in many ways, the District and the city are similar because we did not have any plans to look at this until Hurricanes Jeanne and Wilma.  We had no experience with how two different tree species performed.  My frustration is we sent out a tree information booklet to 20,000 households and the percentage of people who appear to be reading it is minimal.  I can only do so much in terms of trying to educate the public.

            Mr. Fennell stated we are going to try to insure the residents of CSID are better informed about what is needed by doubling our efforts.  We hope to cooperate with the city to make sure we have a uniform policy, not only for trees in the yard but trees along the canal. 

            Mr. Hanks stated you are not going to change the residents perception.  Occasionally we are going to see in the future where people hire companies to plant trees and they end up planting them in our right-of-way.  Is there a way, if we catch them within a certain period of time, to go back to the resident and say, “Get rid of the tree because it is in our right-of-way and you are encroaching”?

            Mr. Westfall responded this is a legal question and something we want to see happen.  However, what the enforcement mechanism is and whether it is enforcement on the side of the District, Code Enforcement or the police, I do not know and is something we need to look into.  When I deal with the residents and I deal with many residents regarding the trees all over the city, this is something I point out to them.  I can say it but it does not mean they are going to listen to me.

            Mr. Fennell asked are you here to help negotiate the mitigation issue?

            Mr. Westfall responded no.  The reasoning behind the rejection needs to be looked at.

            Mr. Fennell stated the city has a policy for planting trees.  Are they giving residents money to help plant trees?

            Mr. Westfall responded yes.  We are subsidizing street trees along public right-of-way.  I inspect every tree planted for quality, proper planting and species.  We are not just taking their word for it.

            Mr. Hanks stated we need to review the city code.  Representation here told us we have to provide mitigation.  Do we need to provide the city with a proposal for mitigation?

            Mr. Fennell responded yes.

            Mr. Hanks stated if we remove 175 trees by the Auto Mall, there is going to be an impact to the residents adjacent to the canal in terms of a visual buffer.  We need to take a close look at this.

            Mr. Fennell stated the buffer should not have been there in the first place.  Any mitigation will have to go behind it.  The owner of the property bears some responsibility because he planted the trees in the wrong spot. 

            Mr. Hanks stated in the end, we are all responsible because as members of this District, we have to assume the cost one way or another for mitigation and tree removal.  In some ways the Board is responsible because of inaction over the course of 20 years in terms of effectively exercising the right-of-way. 

            Mr. Fennell stated when the trees were only 15’ high and three inches in diameter, we were not anywhere near the seriousness of the problem it is today. 

            Mr. Hanks asked do we need to provide direction to management?

            Mr. Fennell responded we need to instruct staff to start negotiating a mitigation policy with the city as a utility.  We cannot put those trees back in the same places.

            Mr. Hanks stated let’s provide them some guidance as to where we want to prioritize the mitigation of these trees.

            Mr. Fennell stated there is an issue of money as there is only so much we can afford.  As a utility, is there a difference in mitigation responsibilities?

            Mr. Lyles responded it is substantially different.  The permitting as it relates to utilities authorizes tree for tree replacement.  A private landowner or developer does it on an inch per inch basis.  If you are removing a 10” caliper tree as a developer or private landowner, you have to replace a 10” tree.  As a utility, if you remove one tree, you have to replace it with one tree.  This is a loose standard in some ways, which is why city staff and your staff have to come to terms on the plan.  I am absolutely convinced we are entitled to be considered as a utility under this tree ordinance and we will proceed in this fashion every step of the way. 

            Mr. Hanks asked is Comcast considered to be a utility?

            Mr. Westfall responded I do not know.  FDOT is not a utility but they are on an inch per inch replacement.

            Mr. Fennell stated we want to work with the city.  I request the city help donate some money to this issue.  We still need to do something different as far as the design of our own property for shielding.  We were talking about bringing in a Landscape Architect.  Have we done so?

            Mr. Petty responded yes.  CH2M-Hill is standing by.

            Mr. Hanks stated with the proper tree placement, you can also shield damage from your house.  The house can be damaged by dropped branches but prevents other types of damage from occurring.

            Mr. Fennell stated we need to do this and are asking the city to help us out financially.  We consider ourselves to be a utility.  Does staff need further direction?

            Mr. Petty responded no.  We can start talking to the City Manager’s office.

            Mr. Hanks stated I think we are wasting our time.  I wish to investigate whether or not the pumps will move a tree once it is hanging off the bank.  The whole concern has been the trees in the canal were moved when all the pumps were turned on.

            Mr. Fennell stated we were concerned about blockages.

            Mr. Hanks stated if it moves a fallen tree, you can have it moved to the culvert.  We should find a location where we can test to see whether or not the pumps will pull a tree off the bank.

            Mr. Petty stated your engineer already did a calculation on the traveling speed of a tree and how many feet per second the canal water will be running.  It will be impossible for us to do a test of various trees with flotation capabilities.  You can take the velocity of the canal into consideration and consider it to be a threat versus a study of dropping a couple of trees into the canal. 

            Mr. Hanks asked how are you going to model a tree?

            Mr. Petty responded I would fail modeling the tree because wood has different densities depending on the species. 

            Mr. Hanks asked if the tree stays on the bank and does not travel to a culvert and does not block the culvert, does the tree pose a risk to flooding or increase our risk for flooding?  We can be spending millions of dollars to determine this.

            Mr. Fennell responded I do not think there is any question that branches come off the trees.  One branch came off my tree and flew 50 feet through the air.  Whether it is whole or single branches, there is no question we are going to have branches in the water floating down the canal.

            Mr. Hanks stated I am talking about a tree partially in the water and partially on the bank.  You are dealing with a full canopy, which you will not have in a hurricane.  The leaves are going to start to strip off early on before you start breaking branches.

            Mr. Fennell stated we paid an engineering group to study this.  What is the status of this study?

            Mr. Petty responded the engineer will be giving a presentation under his report.

 

 

 

 

EIGHTH ORDER OF BUSINESS                     Staff Reports

A.        Attorney

ii.         Special Act Codification

            Mr. Lyles stated I distributed to the Board and manager earlier in the meeting the proposed amendment to the Special Act authorizing the District to serve in the function discussed at previous meetings pertaining to elections and amending bidding thresholds to be consistent with Florida Law as it relates to other government type agencies and adjusting the level of the compensation of the Board members to $400.  Staff requested considering one additional item, updating the short term borrowing provision to make it clear, although it is implicit in the 34 year old document we are operating under like other government entities you have the ability to go to commercial institutions, banks, underwriters and other lenders to take advantage of what may be a short term borrowing, short of a five year bond issue.  If you have any questions on what this will involve you can ask Ms. Larned.  We will be filing this proposed bill with the Legislative Delegation this week.  The most significant issue is going to be the Board’s ability to convert from a landowner election to an electoral (one person/one vote) system run by the Supervisor of Elections at your discretion.  However, this will only happen in connection with a General Election every other November.

            Mr. Fennell asked will we have two members serving for four years and one member for two years?

            Mr. Lyles responded just for the first year in order to get a staggered election system.  You have people serving four year terms but not the entire Board being replaced in one election cycle.

            Mr. Fennell asked does it state when the elections will be held?

            Mr. Lyles responded the elections will be held the next succeeding even number year in November on Election Day after you make the decision to convert to this system.  It does not dictate when you will make this decision but that they will only be held in connection with the General Election in this county. 

            Mr. Fennell stated running elections are a big expense.

            Ms. Zich stated now we are going to be elected by all residents in the District.

            Mr. Fennell stated we can only do this if we get the state to change our rules.

            Mr. Hanks stated all three Board members will vote in the General Election during non-presidential terms.

            Mr. Fennell stated it has been this way for a long time.  We said this was a good thing to do.

            Mr. Hanks asked do you have the contract amounts for bids?

            Mr. Lyles responded we will follow the state’s cap on its agencies and local government districts like CDD’s and cities.  Typically a construction project is going to remain at $200,000 like every government as opposed to $4,000 but more importantly, the maintenance services going along with it for the water plants this District operates are heavy dollar contracts in some cases.  But in other cases, it may be a $10,000 or $15,000 contract.  We currently have to publish in the newspaper a notice to bidders and go through the preparation of bid specifications involving staff and engineering time.  This is an expensive and cumbersome process.  The state and all other local governments and CDD’s in the state only have to do this if the cost hits $150,000.

            Mr. Hanks stated for the roof repairs we authorized with the change order, now we have to go out for a public bid if it was not done by a change order.

            Mr. Lyles stated unfortunately given the way this was written in the early 1970’s, if we have roof damage exceeding $4,000, we have to go through a bidding process.  This way we will be able to do it, with whatever authority levels the Board establishes for the management staff to get the work completed and bring it back to the Board for ratification.

            Mr. Hanks asked do we you need a resolution?

            Mr. Lyles responded we just need a motion to authorize staff to file the proposed bill amending Chapter 2004-469 Laws of Florida, which is your Special Act.

            Mr. Petty stated I received comments on the Economic Impact Statement but I do not have the current draft.  One item was about the bank being specified even though it is implicit.  However, this is for short term notes and we are not looking to qualify for a short term note.  In the past we had the issue of bidding anything over $4,000.