MINUTES OF MEETING

SUNSHINE WATER CONTROL DISTRICT

 

            The regular meeting of the Board of Supervisors of the Sunshine Water Control District was held on Wednesday, May 9, 2007 at 6:38 p.m. in the Commission Chambers at Coral Springs City Hall, 9551 West Sample Road, Coral Springs, Florida.

 

            Present and constituting a quorum were:

 

            Mary Macomber                                        President

            Dave Hulett                                                Vice President

 

            Also present were:

 

            Bob Nanni                                                  Manager - Severn Trent Services

            Ed Goscicki                                                Severn Trent Services (by phone)

            Bruce Cranmer                                           Attorney

            Cedo DaSilva                                             CH2M-Hill

            Peter Colussy                                             CH2M-Hill

            Daniel Bohorguez                                       CH2M-Hill

            Pamela Rower                                            Severn Trent Services

            Dan Daly                                                    CSID

            Cory Selchan                                              Field Superintendent

            John McKune                                             In-House Engineer

            Doug Hyche                                               District Staff

            Rich Michaud                                             City of Coral Springs Director of Public Works

            Several Residents

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS                         Roll Call

Ms. Macomber called the meeting to order and Mr. Nanni called the roll. 

 

SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS                    Approval of the Minutes of the April 11, 2007 Meeting

            Ms. Macomber stated each Board member received a copy of the minutes of the April 11, 2007 meeting and requested any additions, corrections or deletions.

            Mr. Hulett stated on the list of attendees, I noticed Mr. Cory Selchan, who is our Field Superintendent was listed as being with Severn Trent Services.  I believe he is an employee of Sunshine.  Is this correct?

            Mr. Nanni responded yes.  We will make this change.

            Mr. Hulett stated Mr. Daly is identified as being with Severn Trent Services.  Is he with CSID?

            Mr. Daly responded I am with CSID.

            Mr. Hulett stated Mr. McKune is identified as District Staff.

            Mr. McKune responded I am the in-house engineer.

            Ms. Macomber asked how long have you been with us?

            Mr. McKune responded I have been with the engineering company associated with the District for 35 years but with Sunshine for a short period of time.

 

On MOTION by Mr. Hulett seconded by Ms. Macomber with all in favor the minutes of the April 11, 2007 meeting were approved as amended.

 

THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS                       Consideration of Resolution 2007-1 Amending the General Fund Budget for Fiscal Year 2006-2007

            Ms. Macomber stated I received notification from the Property Appraisers office of the number of taxable units.  Is this correct?

            Ms. Rower responded yes.  When preparing the budget for 2007, we received a different number.  We requested verification in writing and this is what we received.  We will amend the budget.

            Mr. Hulett stated we now have 16,564 taxable units.

            Mr. Rower stated correct.

            Mr. Hulett asked why did we not have the correct amount?  Was it because they had not notified us?

            Mr. Nanni responded there is an annual notification.

            Mr. Hulett stated I noticed the letter was sent to 210 N. University Drive as opposed to 10300 NW 11th Manor.

            Ms. Macomber stated the District has an office at 210 N. University Drive. 

            Mr. Hulett stated this is the Severn Trent Services office.  The official address for Sunshine is 10300 NW 11th Manor.  Assuming a change was made, it should be noted by the Broward County Property Appraiser’s office.  It looks like there were three water bills.  What were they for?

            Ms. Macomber responded they should not have been included.

 

On MOTION by Mr. Brewer seconded by Mr. Weissman with all in favor Resolution 2007-04 Amending the General Fund Budget for Fiscal Year 2006-2007 was adopted.

 

FOURTH ORDER OF BUSINESS                    Distribution of Proposed Budget for Fiscal Year 2008 and Consideration of Resolution 2007-5 Approving the Budget and Setting the Public Hearing

            Ms. Macomber stated I do not recall receiving the budget.

            Ms. Rower stated I sent it out to the Board under separate cover.

            Mr. Nanni stated you are not required to make any judgments on the budget tonight as this is a working budget.  You have two months from tonight to make any changes or recommendations.  This is the first step in the budget process.  You are not approving it tonight; all you are doing is receiving it.

            Ms. Macomber stated I would feel more comfortable if the resolution says “Draft budget”.

            Ms. Rower stated the resolution is only allowing you to make notice of a public hearing.

            Mr. Cranmer stated the President makes a good point.  I recommend you change the first paragraph to reflect this is the draft budget.

            Ms. Macomber stated otherwise it appears we already approved the budget and I do not want to be in this position.

            Mr. Hulett asked was there a reason why you were not able to include the budget in the agenda package?

            Ms. Rower responded because of the timing of getting the financial statements and then preparing the budget from the last set of financials.  We wanted to make sure we had the most current financials.  

            Mr. Hulett stated I do not know what the practice has been in the past in regards to the budgeting process but I have many questions about it.  I wonder if the Board held budget workshops in the past.

            Ms. Macomber stated we discussed the budget at our regular meeting.  I want to place this item on the agenda for the next meeting.

            Mr. Hulett asked did you have a committee meeting strictly to discuss the budget?

            Ms. Macomber responded no.  At this meeting, we will be approving the draft for the purpose of setting the public hearing for the July meeting.  At the June meeting, we will discuss the budget in more detail.

 

On MOTION by Mr. Hulett seconded by Ms. Macomber with all in favor Resolution 2007-5 Approving the Budget for Fiscal Year 2008 and Setting the Public Hearing for July 11, 2007 at 6:30 P.M. in the Commission Chambers at Coral Springs City Hall, 9551 West Sample Road, Coral Springs, Florida was adopted as amended, changing the word “Proposed Budget” to “Draft Budget”.

 

            Mr. Hulett asked as a point of clarification, what is the difference between Sunshine 1 and Sunshine 2 as referenced in the letter from the Property Appraiser?

            Mr. Cranmer responded I wondered the same thing.  Apparently, there are 313 units in Sunshine 2. 

            Ms. Rower stated I can follow-up with the Property Appraiser.

 

FIFTH ORDER OF BUSINESS                         Award of Contracts

A.        Culvert Cleaning

            Ms. Macomber stated I believe we have a recommendation letter from Mr. Doug Hyche indicating the low bidder based on the backup was Fish Tech Inc. in the amount of $55,000.  I find it interesting how wide the range of the bids were.  The highest bid was $235,000.

            Mr. Cranmer stated this relates to the Triploid Carp bid as well.

            Mr. Hulett asked can we hear more about this item?

            Mr. Selchan responded this is something we do to maintain the pipes in the system when we drain from one canal to another.  Most of these are culvert pipes running under the street, which need to be cleaned.  On a fairly regular basis, these pipes are cleaned to keep them free of any sediment.  We have a diver go in and inspect the culverts, provide a dive report and then we bid it out.

            Ms. Macomber stated with the low water levels, it will probably be easier for them to clean them.

            Mr. Hulett asked will this take care of any blockages? 

            Mr. Selchan responded it will clean out the culvert pipes and what is immediately in front of the culvert pipe.  It will not address anything downstream of the culvert pipe. 

            Mr. Hulett asked did this bid go out several months ago?

            Mr. Selchan responded it went out a month ago.  We had a pre-bid meeting on May 2nd to make sure everyone understood what we expected.  We opened the bids this morning at 11:00 a.m.

            Mr. Hulett asked have we used Fish Tech before?

            Mr. Selchan responded no.  He has a new process of how he removes sediment from the pipe.  He says it is much quicker and efficient than what his competitors use.

            Mr. Hulett asked did he say what he will do?

            Mr. Selchan responded he uses a hydraulically driven vacuum system to hold the material up out of the pipe and take it downstream of the culvert pipe he is working in.

            Mr. Hulett asked are you satisfied this is a good bid?

            Mr. Selchan responded he has met the qualifications.  We are going to do some housekeeping and check up on his references.  We did not contact all of his references today but will do so to make sure he is capable of doing the work.  If not, he will be excluded and we will award the contract to the second bidder.

            Mr. Hulett stated I hope he works out.  Are we sure this guy can do what he says for $55,000 rather than the $108,000 from the second bidder?

            Mr. Selchan responded I certainly hope he can.

            Ms. Macomber asked who was the second bidder?

            Mr. Selchan responded Industrial Divers.

 

On MOTION by Mr. Hulett seconded by Ms. Macomber with all in favor the culvert cleaning contract was awarded to Fish Tech, Inc. in the amount of $55,000.

 

B.        Triploid Grass Carp

            Ms. Macomber stated I understand from Mr. Selchan we do not have a recommendation letter.

            Mr. Selchan stated we are going to wait another week and open the bids on May 16th in order to give all bidders time to submit.

            Mr. Hulett asked is this the introduction of fish into the canals?

            Mr. Selchan responded it is a very efficient way of controlling aquatic weed growth in our canal system without having to use herbicides to control the weed growth.  They do an excellent job.

            Mr. Cranmer stated the city permits this because they do not reproduce.

            Ms. Macomber stated we approve this contract every year.

            Mr. Selchan stated we have not done this in the last few years as we do not want them to take all of the aquatic weed material from the waterways.  We manage how we bring them in.  When we feel we are having problems in areas, we bring them into those areas and let them eat their way out.

            Mr. Hulett asked what number are you looking for in terms of the cost?

            Mr. Selchan responded we are going to purchase 5,000 fish.  I hope we come in under what we budgeted, which was $17,500.

            Mr. Hulett stated this is $3.00 per fish. 

            Ms. Macomber stated they grow fairly big.

            Mr. Selchan stated they grow to 30 lbs.

            Mr. Cranmer stated one year we paid $3.38 per fish.

            Mr. Selchan stated when we first started; the price was $5.00 per fish.  The price has decreased due to the number of people providing the fish.  We will have a bid tabulation at the next meeting. 

 

SIXTH ORDER OF BUSINESS                        Consideration of Permit Requests

A.        T&K Nezwek, LLC - Bluewater Office Warehouse for Discharge into Existing Drainage System

            Mr. DaSilva stated at this time, I recommend approval of this permit based on our approval letter.

            Ms. Macomber asked are we basing our approval on the special conditions as stated in the letter?

            Mr. Colussy responded yes.  These are our standard conditions.

 

On MOTION by Mr. Hulett seconded by Ms. Macomber with all in favor the request from T&K Nezwek, LLC. for a Right-of-Way permit for discharge into existing drainage system for construction of a Bluewater office warehouse was approved.

B.        School Board of Broward CountyCoral Springs Elementary School for Discharge into SWCD Canal L-17-9

            Mr. DaSilva stated I recommend approval of this permit based on our approval letter with our standard conditions.

 

On MOTION by Mr. Hulett seconded by Ms. Macomber with all in favor the request from the School Board of Broward County for a surface water management permit for discharge into the L17-9 Canal for Coral Springs Elementary School was approved.

 

C.        Amerimax Sample Realty, LLC. – Dunkin Donuts for Discharge into SWCD Canal U

            Mr. DaSilva stated I recommend approval of this permit based on our approval letter with our standard conditions.

 

On MOTION by Mr. Hulett seconded by Ms. Macomber with all in favor the request from Amerimax Sample Realty, LLC. for a surface water management permit for discharge into the U Canal for Dunkin Donuts was approved.

 

SEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS                  Staff Reports

A.        Attorney

            Ms. Macomber asked were you going to draft the RFP for management services?

            Mr. Cranmer responded I already did.  I faxed a draft on April 18th to Mr. Nanni who made some revisions.

            Mr. Nanni stated I added some generic language.  We can re-format it and provide to the Board.

            Mr. Hulett stated I was hoping it would be ready tonight for approval.

            Mr. Cranmer stated on May 1st, I received the amendments from Mr. Nanni.  I suggest Mr. Nanni add his comments to my draft.  He had a sample scope of services from one of his CDD’s.

            Mr. Hulett stated I think we are off track.  I hoped our attorney drafted it and shared it with the supervisors and not with Severn Trent Services, who is obviously going to be one of the applicants.  I am looking for the advertisement for the position with the duties and the place to send resumes; not a bid. 

            Mr. Cranmer stated we never had this happen before so I had confidence in Mr. Nanni to come up with some additions and he did.  I emailed a revised RFP back to him on May 1st.

            Mr. Nanni stated I do not recall the specific email.  There were many emails going back and forth to make sure we had the right RFP.  Since the Board has taken action and recommended the RFP, the RFP document is nothing more than a format.

            Mr. Cranmer stated correct.

            Mr. Nanni asked is it possible to email a copy to the Board members in between meetings and if they are okay with it, send it to the newspaper?

            Mr. Cranmer responded yes.

            Ms. Macomber stated I do not want to wait until the next meeting.

            Mr. Cranmer stated you have done a request for bids without Board approval before.

            Mr. Hulett stated I want to get away from the word “bid”.  This is not a bid.  This is the receipt of resumes from interested parties.

            Mr. Cranmer stated we have a great deal of flexibility and do not have to do a formal bid.

            Mr. Hulett stated I provided Mr. Cranmer with the following:

“Sunshine Water Control District, Coral Springs, Florida seeks individuals to assume the position of District Manager.  Duties include providing oversight and coordination of the actions of the Field Superintendent, District Engineer and District Attorney to ensure the master plan for the operation of the District’s infrastructure is in place and functional at all times; ability to work in a cooperative effort with two other Districts located within the Coral Springs city limits; preparation of meeting materials and backup package for the monthly Board meetings; recording and transcribing monthly Board meetings; preparing the annual budget; preparing monthly financial reports for the Board of Supervisors; continued evaluation of the District’s financial needs; monitoring the cashflow and financial projections and scheduling an annual audit with outside accounting firms.

 

Applicants should have experience with the operation of a government entity; budgeting and cashflow analysis; ability to provide recording and transcription services; management experience in dealing with employees, professional staff members and elected officials and the ability to interact with District customers and landowners on a very favorable basis.  The compensation and contract will be negotiated with the successful applicant who will be a 1099 contractor. 

 

Resumes from interested parties should be sent to the Sunshine WCD, Board of Supervisors attention, to be opened and distributed to the President and other supervisors directly for their review.  They will choose the top three/five firms to make presentations to the Board”.

            Mr. Cranmer stated at the last meeting, I recall it was the direction of the Board to go through the complicated statutory procedure of a request for bid.

            Mr. Hulett stated I do not believe so. 

            Mr. Cranmer stated a request for bid is a statutory procedure.

            Mr. Hulett stated it was a request for proposals, according to the minutes.

            Ms. Macomber stated we want to follow the statutes.

            Mr. Cranmer stated the term used was RFP or request for proposals.

            Mr. Goscicki stated I think what Mr. Hulett outlined very openly is normally done by the attorney.  You laid out the scope of services you are looking for in terms of background skills, experience and qualifications through qualified firms.  The Board will go through the process of reviewing those proposals and invite a certain number to give presentations.  On what has been generated between the District Manager and attorney, we go into more detail on the scope based on our experience.  You may want to go into more detail on the qualifications in regards to the systems you have in place and the financial report.  We carry professional and general liability insurance and have an emergency response plan in place.  I think you have a good document.  We will email the RFP out to you.  If you have any changes, we will get them made and get it out on the street.

            Mr. Cranmer stated my April 18th draft was faxed to both the local office and the Orlando office.  I received Mr. Nanni’s suggestions, which Mr. Goscicki just outlined.  It just needs to be merged together.  The Board will have three different proposals to review.

            Mr. Hulett stated we asked at the last meeting for this RFP to be prepared and ready for us tonight.  There has been no communication.  I had to call and ask for something, which was not at all what we asked for.  I am at a loss to understand why the RFP was not ready tonight.

            Mr. Goscicki stated I am not sure either.  The document is done.  I have seen it. 

            Mr. Nanni stated Mr. Hulett’s document refers to items already in the existing draft.  We can see what may be missing and incorporate it.  By Friday, we can email the completed document to the Board.  If we do not receive any comments, we will get it on the street.

            Ms. Macomber stated my only problem is I have a Board meeting in Orlando tomorrow and Friday.  Please email a copy to Mr. Sobers.

            Mr. Cranmer stated you can pass a resolution tonight authorizing us to prepare the RFP.

            Mr. Hulett stated I want to have assurances if we are using the terminology “Bidding procedure” we are not accepting a low bid.  This is no different than when the city goes out to hire a new City Manager.  They entertain resumes, review them, choose the top four or five candidates, interview them and make their final selection.

            Mr. Cranmer stated there is a clause in all of these invitations to bid saying we are not obligated to accept the lowest bid. 

            Mr. Hulett stated this is not a bid.

            Mr. Nanni stated you are correct and the final documents will reflect this is an RFP.  I will email a copy of the RFP to the Board on Friday and go out on the street on Monday.

            Mr. Hulett stated I accept this draft only because this is a rough idea.  I certainly do not mean this to be the final product.  I want to see the final project very quickly.  Do we have to meet to approve the document or can it be done legally by contacting the three of us by phone or email?

            Mr. Cranmer responded you can authorize staff tonight to prepare the RFP, within the parameters stipulated.

            Ms. Macomber stated we want to see it before you send to the newspaper.  Send us a copy by email and we will agree for each of us to respond back with our comments.

            Mr. Nanni stated you cannot talk to each other by phone or email but you can talk to me individually.

            Mr. Cranmer stated because this is a management contract, we have flexibility on the procedures.

            Mr. Hulett asked when should we expect to see a draft?

            Mr. Nanni responded by Noon on Friday.

B.        Engineer – Work Authorization #WA-4 Amended for Stormwater Pump Stations 1 & 2

            Mr. Colussy stated the Board approved Work Authorization No. 4 at the last meeting.  However, after the meeting we met with Mr. Selchan and directed our team to perform the inspection on both pump stations.  Mr. Selchan thought it was a good idea to do an investigation to see if there were any advantages to switching out the diesel engines to an all electric system.  The City of Tamarac is going to electric engines.  Easel engines seem to be easier to obtain.  There may be some additional tool back up to the electric system. 

            Ms. Macomber asked what do we currently have?

            Mr. Colussy responded we currently have LP engines. 

            Ms. Macomber asked do they use propane gas?

            Mr. Colussy responded yes.  We wanted to do a comparison to see if there are any savings, efficiency as well as safety and pumping capacities from those engines.  This is the purpose of amending the work authorization, which is in the amount of $25,000.  The additional study will be $5,000 for a total amount of $30,000.

            Ms. Macomber asked are we doing this in the hopes we will be able to save money in the long run and have more dependability?

            Mr. Colussy responded ultimately this is what our goal is.  However, whether it is going to be practical to do this now, in five years or later on, we do not know.  This is what we want to determine from this study.  Ultimately the goal is to save money and be more efficient.

            Mr. Hulett asked is this what we passed last month for the inspections of the pump stations?

            Mr. Colussy responded yes.  The Board approved the work authorization for the pump stations; however, it did not include the line item to do the study to compare the difference between diesel and electric engines.

            Mr. Hulett asked is $25,000 the amount approved last month?

            Mr. Colussy responded yes, plus $5,000 for the cost and efficiency study.

            Mr. Hulett stated according to the work authorization, they will perform a visual inspection only to evaluate the condition and performance of each pump engine, the ancillary systems and prepare a preliminary report.  How many hours will it take to inspect each section?

            Mr. Colussy responded our mechanical, structural and electrical engineers will perform a site survey first and then research what is going to be repaired, make recommendations and prepare the report of what each station needs, what needs to be maintained and what needs to be replaced and upgraded.  The stations are 30 years old and nothing has been done to them.  We are going to do an in-depth structural analysis to make sure the station is structurally sound to continue operations.  We will make sure the pumps were not incapacitated during storm situations, the motors are working, the electrical is there and there is enough security at the site.  We are looking at the entire site.

            Mr. Hulett asked do you anticipate this costing more than $30,000?

            Mr. Colussy responded no.  The only item not on the work authorization is the $3,600 dive report.

            Mr. Hulett stated I think this has been done.

            Mr. Colussy stated correct.  I received a copy of it this morning but have not had a chance to review it. 

            Mr. Hulett stated I had an opportunity to visit the new pump stations with Mr. Selchan.  One of my observations was the security is definitely an issue.  The fences need to be replaced.  Anyone can climb over them and access the building.  I certainly want to hear a recommendation for the security fences for both pump stations.  We do not want to make it easy for people to have access.

            Mr. Colussy stated security is definitely a problem.  On some of the stations the doors were rusted and it was easy for someone to break in. 

            Mr. Hulett asked do these engines turn on once a month or every other month?

            Mr. Hyche responded every other month.

            Mr. Hulett asked is everything currently working?

            Mr. Colussy responded on Pump Station 1 there was a problem with the controller and we could not get the engine started.  I think this has since been repaired.

            Mr. Hulett asked as part of your report, will you bring back a cost comparison of going to an electrical type of system versus what we currently have?

            Mr. Colussy responded yes.  This is what the additional $5,000 is for.

 

On MOTION by Mr. Hulett seconded by Ms. Macomber with all in favor Work Authorization #WA-4 Amended for Stormwater Pump Stations 1 & 2 with CH2M-Hill in the amount of $30,000 was approved.

 

            Mr. Colussy stated in regards to the tree removal project, I have a map of the District as of this date.  We meet every Monday morning with the contractor, Mr. Selchan, staff and our field monitors.  The map identifies in green the following areas completed to date:

                    Northeast corner of Sunshine (Riverside Drive)

                    East outfall canal

                    Sawgrass Canal from Sample south

            In orange are areas being worked on this week.  Hopefully they will make good progress.  We will see next Monday how much work is completed.  Everything in blue is not in the contract.  The work has been proceeding.  There were some complaints but to some degree, everything has been amicably resolved with the residents.  For the most part, the contractor is doing a good job and following exactly what we are asking him to do.

            Ms. Selchan asked are the residents happy with what we are doing?

            Mr. Selchan responded we only received a couple of minor complaints about the path the workers were taking and a couple of incidents with the tree removal.  In one instance, they actually cut the wrong tree but it was resolved.  Everyone seems to be satisfied with the way the incidents were resolved.  I had more people calling about one specific tree.

            Ms. Macomber stated how interesting.

            Mr. Colussy stated I have some before and after pictures of the east outfall canal and the canal along the Sawgrass Expressway going north.  The removal of the Australian Pines makes a big difference. 

            Mr. Hulett asked Mr. Selchan, are you happy with what is occurring with this project?

            Mr. Selchan responded yes.  They are doing a good job.

            Mr. DaSilva stated at this time, Mr. Bohorguez is going to present the Hydrologic model to the Board. 

            Mr. Hulett asked is this part of the work authorization?

            Mr. DaSilva responded the previous work authorization.

            Mr. Bohorguez stated a couple of months ago I presented a report to the Board on the District 30 years ago and we were authorized to prepare a drainage study.  The entire District was divided into two different basins; the east and west basin.  Each basin works individually with Pump Stations 1 and 2, which pumps water two miles down to the C-14 Canal.  We had a different land use for 2007 but it was necessary for us to see the new land use for the residential business parts.  The entire District is fully developed.  We are also taking into consideration the pumps installed eight years ago.  It was necessary for us to consider all the pumps in the District and in the drainage system.

            To develop a good model, we contacted local authorities like the National Weather Service and SFWMD to obtain all historical data for the drainage.  We divided the District into 57 sub-basins to take into consideration a closer distribution of the houses, streets and canals.  We discovered we have 35 acres of water surface, 281 acres of roadway and 461 acres of residential area within the west basin.  Once we included all of this information into the model, we considered all types of running water out of the District to the pump stations.  After running the model we found the elevation in the east basins for the road was exceeded by an inch to an inch and a half for the 10 year storm.  We also ran a model for the 100 year storm and found some problems. 

            In order to prevent flooding, we concluded there were some areas where the lakes and canals were too shallow and needed to be dredged to have a better flow system.  Based on the outcome of the computer model, the original calculations were correct but they were done 30 years ago.  Even though we have a couple of problems on the west basin, we have to take into consideration each subdivision has excess storage, which we are not considering in this model.  This will assist us in the event we have flooding problems.  In addition, we are recommending yearly inspections of the culverts to ensure they are clear of debris and silt.  This is what Mr. Selchan referred to earlier.  We strongly recommend District personnel help identify areas of concern.  We considered the possibility of installing interconnects between the east and west basins but after speaking with Mr. Selchan, it is not beneficial at this time.

            Mr. Hulett asked are you saying in the 100 year/72 hour storm, the canal water will go over the banks with the current flow system?

            Mr. DaSilva responded the guideline is 11.9”.  This area had tested at 11.68”, which is an inch higher than the allowable.  This means under the 100 year event, you may get an extra inch of water.  In other words, if you have a house with a finished floor of 11.5”, they will get an inch of water in their house.  Then again, you have to consider each development has their own storage for drainage, which has not been accounted for on the model because we have to survey the entire District to get an accurate measurement.  Part of the recommendation is to keep all the culverts clear and dredge all canals.  We found debris in some of the canals.  As long as we keep these canals clear and in service, we should be able to minimize any impact.  By adding an extra pipe or larger pipe on the connection, you can minimize the impact.

            Mr. Hulett asked did you come up with these projections by looking at the culverts?

            Mr. DaSilva responded we had as-builts for the entire District identifying sizes of pipes, canal areas, the location of the pipes and all pervious and impervious areas within the District.  This will create a flow of discharge through the pipes to discharge through the pump stations.  At the same time you are pulling this water, you can see where your low point is going to be because this is where your pump station is.  It starts building up as you go further into the system.

            Mr. Hulett stated for the benefit of the audience, Pump Station 1 is at the corner of Royal Palm Boulevard in back of the Presbyterian Church.  Pump Station 2 is behind Taravella High School along the C-14 Canal.  We actually pump through CSID to get to Pump Station 2.

            Mr. DaSilva stated you will have head losses but this can be minimized by adding an extra pipe.  The readings of 11.8” and 11.5” show a head loss connection.

            Mr. Hulett stated not being a professional engineer, this does not sound bad.

            Mr. DaSilva stated we do not have the finished floor elevation for each house.  If they are higher than 11.5” and we are at 12”, this means 90% of the houses are at 12”.

            Mr. Hulett stated the biggest rain event I can recall in almost 30 years was in March of 1979 when we had 16” of rain in 24 hours.  I was in the process of purchasing my house and looked to see what condition the canals behind my house were in.  The water was not even close to overflowing.  I do not think we have had anything like that since but it would be good to know this information if we ever had a 100 year rain event.

            Ms. Macomber asked what is the next step in the process?  Is it up to the engineers to figure out which canals need to be dredged?

            Mr. Selchan responded yes.  We want to make sure there are no high spots on any of the pipe elevations from the water.  We know they exist but this does not mean we cannot pump water.  We can pump water but we want to make it more efficient.  We want to find and eliminate high spots in the system so we have a nice efficient flow when we start the pumps.  If we had a rain storm, it will sheet flow out and go to an area where it is flowing maximum so we do not have any problems.  In a worst case scenario, we will have the best efficient system we can provide.

            Mrs. Macomber asked has this report been helpful to you?

            Mr. Selchan responded absolutely.  I am glad we are doing this as the information needs to be presented to the Board so they can act on it.  Believe it or not, we have taken the first step by removing the trees growing around the waterway as a lot of debris and liter from the trees piles up in the waterways and generates siltration and plant matter.  Once we clear those out, we are going to redo the study.  If we dredge to the bottom of the pipe elevations to the best we can, then we have made it as efficient as the way it was designed.  If there is a design flaw, Mr. DaSilva and his staff will find it for us. 

            Mr. Hulett asked why are we now just getting around to cleaning out culverts and taking down high spots?  Were we in a position to do this over the past five to ten years?

            Mr. Selchan responded cleaning culverts has been something we have always done.  We checked them on an annual basis to see what needs to be done and cleaned them out.  I have not been employed long enough in my position to answer why they have not been dug out.  When I started here, some areas were dug up, annually but they have much different access now.  Thirty years ago, most of these areas were not developed and there was easy access for equipment.  Since then, access has become fairly limited.  It has been a difficult process.  I think money may have been a problem.

            Mr. DaSilva stated all of these large storms created these problems.

            Mr. Selchan stated big storms pick up a lot of material and move it into the waterway.  Due to the drought, you are seeing many of the debris you may not normally see.

            Mr. Hulett stated regardless of what did or did not happen in the past, moving water is critically important to the proper functioning of this infrastructure should we have a 100 year event.

            Mr. Selchan stated correct.

            Mr. Michaud asked can I get an explanation on why it is beneficial to connect the east and west basin?

            Mr. DaSilva responded after talking with Mr. Selchan, this was only a suggestion.  The seepage in each basin is tremendous and there is no differential in the water elevations.  I do not think the District will get a benefit out of it.  This may be something the city may want to add